Fill Up 4 Free in Canada?

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Fill Up 4 Free in Canada?

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I just found this site: http://www.fillup4free.com/

It's a WVO Co-op across the US. I just signed up for an account so I don't know if there are any Canadian, or more specifically for me, Vancouver Island sites. I wanted to know if anyone had any experience with this Co-op or if there was an equivalent Canadian Co-op.

I've very anxious to buy a Delica and convert it over to WVO, but one nagging concerns I have is a reliable source of WVO. I'm not ruling out going approaching restaurants that I think would be receptive to giving me their oil, but I don't want to reinvent the wheel. Is there already a network set up that I could join?
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Adam wrote:I just found this site:one nagging concerns I have is a reliable source of WVO. I'm not ruling out going approaching restaurants that I think would be receptive to giving me their oil, but I don't want to reinvent the wheel. Is there already a network set up that I could join?
First of all that website is such a cool resource, just spent a few minutes looking at it... I dont know of anything in Canada yet that is the same. But it isn't like you would be reinventing the wheel by producing your own, it would just mean that you are doing your own work, rather than getting someone else to do it for you! I mean someone has to go through the process right. Besides if you are on the island you usually aren't headed to far from your home and you still can always run diesel if you get in a pickle! That site is a great resource for road trips hey!

Anyhow good luck. I am looking into how to get down and get myself a frybird system before fall. Its not a matter of if... just a matter of when.

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josh wrote:But it isn't like you would be reinventing the wheel by producing your own, it would just mean that you are doing your own work, rather than getting someone else to do it for you! I mean someone has to go through the process right.
When I said 'reinventing the wheel' I was more referring to setting up a network of WVO sources. I'm more than willing to do the work myself, just would like to tap into an existing network if something exists instead of starting my own parallel source of WVO.

I don't have a Delica yet, hopefully that will change in the next few weeks. In the meantime I'm still trying to convince my wife that this is a viable alternative and that we aren't going to spend more time and effort hunting for WVO than it is worth. The other option for us is to use the Cowfuel Biodiesel Co-op, but I'd rather use WVO given the choice, and Cowichan is still a bit of a drive from here. I do drive down to Victoria every other week, so I could stop in for fuel, but other than that I'm not big into driving long distances for enviro-friendly fuel. Seems a little counter productive :-)
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Adam wrote:would like to tap into an existing network if something exists instead of starting my own parallel source of WVO.
Yeah, I am sorry I have no idea if there is an existing network in Canada. However if you do find out, or are interested in creating one, then be sure to PM me. When I get set up count me in... I think that anyone running WVO would be up for it too.

And as far as time spent searching for a reliable source of WVO... if memory serves me correct (and it does tend to fail me at times) BCdelica gets his WVO delivered right to his door!

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Post by EnviroImports.com »

actually I believe there is a type of wvo/bio diesel co-op in Shawnagin lake area, I havent been and dont know much about it , but JUDE on here knows, I know others know about it, but all I know is I get my own wvo and I do not run bio, I cant afford to change all my hoses over , and rebuild my injection pump to run the proper seals to run bio long term.
but im sure if you search around you will find some more info
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wetcoastnewbie wrote:I cant afford to change all my hoses over , and rebuild my injection pump to run the proper seals to run bio long term.
I heard all the rubber hoses and seals have to be switched out with synthetic ones on the older Delicas to run on biodiesel. I also read something about the biodiesel pealing the paint of the fuel tank. Anyone know what I'm looking at in costs to run biodesel in a '91 Delica?
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Hi Adam, not only older diesels, ANY, bc transit just spend tons of money to rebuild all their injection pumps and replace the fuel lines , well at least on the ones they are going to run on bio diesel,( here in Vic. I like the idea of using it, but yes it will wreak havoc on your system for the same amount of money to get your ride ready to run bio, you could put in a wvo set up and use harmless vegie oil with out mucking around with the chemicals , ya ok, im biased, but bio diesel is more expensive than pump diesel even at the co-op's so its pricy to buy and damaging to use unless you upgrade everything.
My father inlaw has the 06 dodge 3/4 ton and wanted to go bio, but it cost a fortune to convert his pump and lines was around 2K as he did not want to try to overhaul his injection pump him self, and the return lines, filters, heaters, one way valves..... Im in favor of anything that helps cut the dependancy we have on fossel fuels, but really do some checking into the actual tottal cost .

also the frybrid kit in seattle does seem to be the best if your unlimited on money but you can do the whole thing for UNDER $1000 , I have a friend that sells the wvo kits in Canmore AB, and installs them. he runs wvo all winter and never has a problem
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wetcoastnewbie wrote: I know others know about it, but all I know is I get my own wvo and I do not run bio, I cant afford to change all my hoses over , and rebuild my injection pump to run the proper seals to run bio long term.
Don't you have to change all your hoses to run WVO also? It will eat them up...

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Post by EnviroImports.com »

for wvo you dont have to change your hoses, you add some hoses if your going with the secondary tank set up, but if you buy a http://www.frybrid.com kit then I believe all those hoses are included in the kit.
I really hope your not going to try to tie wvo into your existing lines, It can be done but I would not do it.
I personally add a portion of wvo to my tank diesel now to add lubrication to my fuel, its safer and better for my truck than the lubricants available, but easy to muck up if you put in to much on a cold day/night.....
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