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The dealer we bought from: Rising Sun Auto Import- One Stop Solution for JDM Vehicles
It was a negative experience.

We would not recommend this dealer.

First of all I would like to apologize for not getting this in sooner. We had a family issue, which took, up a lot of our personal time along with having the responsibility of a young family at home.

I want to start off by stating, BUYER BEWARE its a USED VEHICLE, always, always get a second inspection.

The sale took place October 2010

I cruised this site for the whole summer last year. It seemed to me that there was a couple of very highly thought of Importers in Richmond.

We decided to buy our L400 SE SWB from Steven who owns Assiniboine Importers/Rising Sun Auto Import of New Westminster. He lived close to us and had a garage for servicing

Steven, who seemed at the time to us, to be on the up and up. There were no formal complaints on this forum about he and his company. He was very personable to us, returned all my e-mails, a genuinely seemed very professional.

Background leading up to the findings of the rust:

A member from this forum met me a couple of weeks after my purchase, asked me to lift my engine lid, in doing so it was pointed out to me a ‘tiny’ rust spot. “This is a common place for rust in these cars and that I should have it checked out!”

I have not formally thanked this person but I will take the time to track him down this week.

I was communicating to Steven that my van was getting nasty mileage and bellowing black smoke. Steven would not do anything about it, so I coughed up money and dealt with it.

November 2010
While it was getting the service I had them check out ‘the rust spot’. I was then told NOT to take it off road, that there was considerable rust in and around the steering arms.

After many communications from the garage to Steven he wanted the van brought to his mechanic at RS Auto for a final approval, which he got.

January 2011
It was in for two weeks at a reputable garage, front end off and engine removed. After the first week, the frame welder was poking around the back end, he found more rust near the leaf springs.

I was quoted at $1100.00 to fix it.

I contacted Steven; he gave the phone to his son and I was told it was between the garage and I and that they, (RS Importers) would not pay for it. My reply was “there was supposed to be no rust to begin with!” He then replied. That, “maybe they would not pay for any of it!”

Needless to say we paid the $1100.00. When it comes to our family's safety, we just cut our losses.


I have many e-mails from Steven stating there was NO rust on my L400.
Here is an excerpt of one from August of 2010:

Hi Ian,
Good to hear you again.

Our delicas have been selling very fast in July and Aug.
But we have four L400 coming in Sep, all were selected by staff in Japan through on site inspection.
We guarantee good running condition and no rust whatsoever.
Also we will do maintenance and compliance work when they are here.




At the end of all this, Steven NEVER took any responsibility and NEVER apologized to my wife and I.



I'm hoping that Steven and David have learned from this.

I've noticed since after our experience with Steven, there have been quite a few happy Rising Sun purchasers. That’s great.

I'm always hopeful that people can change. We all make mistakes and usually better ourselves and move on. It’s a small community; lets keep it honest and professional.

I must say that I have and am thoroughly enjoying our community, I have met and chatted with many with regards to mods, roof rack fabbing etc


EN :M
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I would be always very suspicious if someone calls a 15+ year old vehicle rust free. Trusty dealer or not. Even if a lot JDMs are in mint conditions there are always some cosmetic...or in your case major rust spots to find.

Getting a second/third opinion or shop to check out a used vehicle before purchase is a must in my opinion.

Hope you can enjoy your Delica now without any headaches. :M
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It was a pleasure meeting you last night, sorry 'bout my terrible 'French" accent... :-(


Crap, I did not mean to bump this post, a little unprofessional. I apologize.

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Aciled wrote:It was a pleasure meeting you last night, sorry 'bout my terrible 'French" accent... :-(
Aciled wrote: A member from this forum met me a couple of weeks after my purchase, asked me to lift my engine lid, in doing so it was pointed out to me a ‘tiny’ rust spot. “This is a common place for rust in these cars and that I should have it checked out!”

I have not formally thanked this person but I will take the time to track him down this week.



EN :M

Hello, forum members,

This is another typically intended anti post against Rising Sun Auto Import, upon considering it was originally posted last March and popped up today by Ian.
I am very disappointed with Ian’s this kind of immature /intended act.
This case involved CVI as well. Sorry Butch as I didn’t want to name you, but……

1.I totally agree I made a mistake to choose a delica with rust underneath.

We bought this car from one Japan expoter’s recommendation as it looks good and nothing wrong with inspection paper. So I believed.
When I got it here, unfortunately Husky Gas Station garage ( current Assiniboine Auto Service ) I rented had 3 month construction. So I couldn’t check this car with hoist ( CVI, Ian knew about this ).
So I took this L400 to CVI for servicing, where I did not check the rust underneath.
I sold it to Ian, but one day I got a call from Ian about this issue and he sent pics to me.
Ian said Butch found out serious rust on both front chassises during post purchase inspection.
I phoned Butch and heard too dangerous to drive.

2. Settlement
We inspected Ian’s L400 ( front side ) in my garage and concluded it is very serious to drive and
We need to find another way_ repair ( Butch quoted $2600 ), pay back, or giving another stock.
Ian agreed to repair it at CVI by my expense. Settlement done.

3. Repair and another story
Butch called me one day to come to CVI to see rear “chassises” rust.
I rushed to check it as it was serious as well, I thought it was not worth to repair.
Butch quoted me another $2200 for the rear rust repair. We had lots of conversation for this matter.
But I refused CVI’s suggestion for rear rust repair by my expense.
If the CVI initially/faithfully checked out all rusts ( front and rear ) that should be fixed during “after purchase inspection”, we would give money back to Ian and part it out ,instead of settling down this silly repair( total $4,800 ) with initial $2,440 ( I paid to CVI, jobber discount a bit ) compensation.

4. afternote
When I saw this Ian’s post last March, I felt it very natural and nothing wrong with it.
Ian expressed bad feeling on the feedback, that’s it.
But I felt today’s self pump was deliberately manipulated by something.
I felt like this.


Steven
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This story sounds absolutely unprofessional and you forgot to tell how the vehicle passed a full BC inspection without anyone looking at it on a hoist.
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In 2007, the BC government were aggressively shutting down inspection facilities that passed vehicles like this and it gave ICBC a lot of ammo against RHD's in BC to remove unsafe one's off the road. It was a messy situation.

Whoever did the OOP inspection on this vehicle should have their license revoked for passing a van in that condition. Unacceptable.
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Hello, forum members,

This is another typically intended anti post against Rising Sun Auto Import, upon considering it was originally posted last March and popped up today by Ian.
I am very disappointed with Ian’s this kind of immature /intended act.
This case involved CVI as well. Sorry Butch as I didn’t want to name you, but……

1.I totally agree I made a mistake to choose a delica with rust underneath.

We bought this car from one Japan expoter’s recommendation as it looks good and nothing wrong with inspection paper. So I believed.
When I got it here, unfortunately Husky Gas Station garage ( current Assiniboine Auto Service ) I rented had 3 month construction. So I couldn’t check this car with hoist ( CVI, Ian knew about this ).
So I took this L400 to CVI for servicing, where I did not check the rust underneath.
I sold it to Ian, but one day I got a call from Ian about this issue and he sent pics to me.
Ian said Butch found out serious rust on both front chassises during post purchase inspection.
I phoned Butch and heard too dangerous to drive.

2. Settlement
We inspected Ian’s L400 ( front side ) in my garage and concluded it is very serious to drive and
We need to find another way_ repair ( Butch quoted $2600 ), pay back, or giving another stock.
Ian agreed to repair it at CVI by my expense. Settlement done.

3. Repair and another story
Butch called me one day to come to CVI to see rear “chassises” rust.
I rushed to check it as it was serious as well, I thought it was not worth to repair.
Butch quoted me another $2200 for the rear rust repair. We had lots of conversation for this matter.
But I refused CVI’s suggestion for rear rust repair by my expense.
If the CVI initially/faithfully checked out all rusts ( front and rear ) that should be fixed during “after purchase inspection”, we would give money back to Ian and part it out ,instead of settling down this silly repair( total $4,800 ) with initial $2,440 ( I paid to CVI, jobber discount a bit ) compensation.

4. afternote
When I saw this Ian’s post last March, I felt it very natural and nothing wrong with it.
Ian expressed bad feeling on the feedback, that’s it.
But I felt today’s self pump was deliberately manipulated by something.
I felt like this.


Steven[/quote]

If the L400 is perfect as you say it is, then why was it called a road hazard, dangerous to drive and also non of the suspension, cooling system, brake parts were even touched. That is not a 'full service'. It is a bare-minimum service.


Facts are backed up by truths:

Here is the whole e-mail you sent me:
From: risingsun [japancarexpress@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:29 AM
To: McMeiken, Ian
Subject: Re: L400 delica work history
Hi Ian,
I am very sorry to hear your complaint.

Keep in mind that L400 has a timing chain, not timing belt. We adjusted valve timing/ timing chain tension already. All service done by Max is related to the L300, which are prone to mechanical failures without severe maintenance, so don't be confused.

We got the good condition car after through inspection. If we import bad/cheap cars from Japan, we may need lots of replacement work here. It is common sense. We could buy cars in poor shapes at much lower price from Japan to save money. In this case, the cars would need alot more maintenance and repairs when they get to Canada. However my business motto is to get good grade cars all the time, not junk cars.

How come we replace water pump/brake pads with cheap parts here even if it has a perfect condition? If they needed to be replaced, we would've replaced them before handing over the car to you.

We partially painted a few faded spots in Japan before shipping. I don't see why you are so concerned about it.
You have to read my mail carefully. Your car is in a perfect condition. There's no doubt about that.
It has no rusts/no corrosions whatsoever. and well modified with aftermarket parts.
You have made a decision to pay for it with right price.

We used the e coded lenses for BC compliance. We put the marker/reflector here in Canada. They are not shown on the photos taken in Japan. We gave you the big size winter tires for your request.

Every importer has a different way of service, importing cars, price policy, etc. You may have to pay way more if you get all seller's description you mentioned in your mail. You've paid reasonable price for your new Delica. Do not worry about it as it is covered by powertrain warranty for 1 year.

Thanks.

________________________________________
From: risingsun [japancarexpress@gmail.com<mailto:japancarexpress@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:49 PM
To: McMeiken, Ian
Subject: L400 delica work history

Hi Ian,
Here are work history we have done in your black delica.

engine oil replaced_15w-40 castrol
transmission oil replaced
front and rear differential oil replaced
transfer case oil replaced
coolant flushed and new coolant
fuel filter replaced
air filter replaced
new winter tires installed
E-coded headlight installed
marker/ reflector installed
tripod gauge offered
greasing all chassis, ball joints, tie rod, drive shaft
valve adjustment
check all brakes ( 60% left )_You may use longer period as it has original Mitsubishi parts.

< In Japan >
rear swaybar link/bushing installed
body polished/partially repainted
rotora are machined.
We checked mechanical defect in Japan by our affiliated shop, but all parts under bonnet are good, no leaking.
turbo/ac working good, exhaust pipe is not leaking.

As for the fuel mileage, we will see what we need to do, but I think it is related to performance parts in your car.

Thanks.

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Regards,

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Regards,

Steven
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Rising Sun Autos Canada
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We became the number one top seller for Delica after this Ian's case. 8-)
It was a very sour lesson for us.

We have chosen Delicas very carefully in Japan and performed maintenance/compliance work/quality control 2-3 times more than before.

Currently we have 6 Delicas on servicing/compliance, ready to be on the road very soon.
All our delicas are on NO HST sale. :-D

** In later days, do not buy this Ian's L400 if on the market.
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On a completely unrelated note....Has anyone ever heard a song by Rancid called Up to no good?....I think it could potentially be theme music for a certain delica dealer who shall go unnamed...
You've never heard of the Delinnium Falcon? It's the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs...
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Steven is an asian version of this guy... LOL...JUST KIDDIN'
I had a fine experience and would still recommend Rising Sun providing they have the van you want :-D
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Rising Sun Auto Import wrote:but all parts under bonnet are good
I looked at his rig. The poor guy did and still needs to shell out a good chunk of cash to get it to normal condition, let alone perfect like you said.
Rising Sun Auto Import wrote:If the CVI initially/faithfully checked out all rusts
You're criticizing Butch and CVI about their integrity and honesty. That is low.
Rising Sun Auto Import wrote:You have to read my mail carefully. Your car is in a perfect condition. There's no doubt about that.
It has no rusts/no corrosions whatsoever.
Rising Sun Auto Import wrote:I did not check the rust underneath.
Rising Sun Auto Import wrote:In later days, do not buy this Ian's L400 if on the market.
So you somehow had this vehicle pass BC OOP inspection (illegal), then lied to the customer (dishonest) about it being in perfect condition, then sold it to him (illegal) and are now advising anyone not to buy it if he sells it (disrespectful) . That is as shallow as the genepool goes.

That you even have the audacity to even turn your responses into sales pitches for your inventory is just mind boggling.
Rising Sun Auto Import wrote:We became the number one top seller for Delica after this Ian's case
Gloat about it if you like whether it's accurate or not. Your username (don't know how many people behind that keyboard) is acting in the forum 10X worse than Jason aka Keiking was. Go back and read. He's an angel compared to the stints you have been pulling.

Finger pointing aside, common sense dictates that the most successful and honest business treats all of it's customers equally without prejudice or disrespect.

With your responses/emails in this thread you are spreading your customer base very thin. You have excellent feedback on the top of the spectrum and you have the worst feedback possible on the low end of the spectrum.
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I have put enough vehicles through out of province inspections, vehicle inspections, and Ontario safety checks... I have read the inspection manual closely when I build vehicles.

Serious rust on the "frame" should have not past the inspection.

Rust on a Uni-body is not as simple as rust on a frame (ask Toyota who just replaced a bunch of frames on warranty on their trucks).

I have no comments on the shops involved other than this should not have past inspection and is serious. If I had bought from a dealer I would be in court over it (this is why I do not buy from dealers and inspect my purchases carefully).

I am surprised that it was repaired and not sold off as parts? It did and would cost serious money to fix it properly.


Moderators I thought this was not allowed? Moderators? Moderators? Moderators?

Edit: To weld to the frame you need to be a certified welder and to pass an Vehicle Inspection a smart shop would require a structure assessment done by certified shop (Had to have a frame welded once).
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Rising Sun Auto Import wrote:We became the number one top seller for Delica after this Ian's case. 8-)
In your dreams only.
Rising Sun Auto Import wrote:We have chosen Delicas very carefully in Japan and performed maintenance/compliance work/quality control 2-3 times more than before.
I am not a mathematician but I am sure that 0x2(or 3)=0
Rising Sun Auto Import wrote:Currently we have 6 Delicas on servicing/compliance, ready to be on the road very soon.
All our delicas are on NO HST sale. :-D
Really? What is this to do with the subject?
Rising Sun Auto Import wrote:** In later days, do not buy this Ian's L400 if on the market.
Cool. So, what this 'prominent' super-duper dealer is saying is that vehicles they sell have zero resale value. I have never seen such a dumb statement from a used cars salesman. This leads to the conclusion: be aware, do not buy from Rising Sun Auto Import!
You young fellow have such a bad attitude attacking reputable forum members and turning this forum into a battlefield. Going after your customers because of a negative feedback is plain stupid and unfair. Keep it that way and eventually it will work against you.
Yes, I agree with jfarsang: Kei King was RSI in training but I am sure we will overcome this pest effect too.
To moderators and administrators: please finally turn your heads towards RSI constantly antagonizing respectful and long term forum contributors turning every post into a sales ad.
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The only thing that I would fail on a Vehicle Inspection that would worry me would be "structure rust" (Everything else I can think of can be fixed).

I have no idea how this was missed? Like buying a Toyota without looking for it. It is not like the Delica is hard to get under and poke around?

Nothing sends me running faster then a fresh undercoated undercarage or a new paint job on a car for sale!!!
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