January 16th - careful on the roads today Vanvouverites!

[nxski]

There's lots of very well concealed black ice.

I just went into an 80 degree slide at 60kph while attempting to stop at the Freeway lights in Ladner. The upside is that at no point during sliding sideways did the van feel unstable.

[strada-caster]

the van wouldnt feel unstable in that type of situation.. as far as its concerned it is on a 'frictionless' surface. pout the van into a slide like that on pavement and you will feel something completely different.

[nxski]

I've skidded it on wet pavement but never dry. What I was worried about wa reaching the end of the black ice and tipping.