Suspention Lift

[patty]

So the body lift kit has been pretty much covered by "garyo" (though cant get a hold of him). i was just woundering what people knew about full on lifting your vehicle by its suspention (not blocks). I know nothing of the topic but would love some info.
-If you were to only do a small 3-4 inch lift how easy would that be and what would be required?
-how much do they generally cost ( each shock absorder seems to go for 30 to 50 bucks) how much more material is needed?
-basically what would one need to get this down?

[jessef]

Leaf springs or shackles on the rears.

Sub-frame spacers on the fronts.

3-4" on Pajero/Delica/Montero's is not a small lift. Going past that height gain, it's close to the threshold between $1,000+ with a lot of fabricating.

When you go over 3-4 in the front, you're changing the entire geometry/A-arms/subframes/etc... and getting into 'something has to give and may break'.

Trust me. I know this as we've modded 3 Pajero's and countless Toyo's (same basic subframe structure).

I would stay at a safe 2-3" of lift going with shackles, re-arched leaf springs, re-indexed torsion bars in the front and ball-joint/subframe spacers.

I'd expect to pay around 600-800 for a decent kit overseas.

I don't have any experience with Delica's but the entire suspension/frame is identical (except for length) to the Pajero/Montero GenI's.

Going above 3" inches of lift, you'll need deep pockets, time and some trial and error.

Unless you have someone that can fabricate the shackles and spacers for you. Either way, it's a pain to lift these guys above 3-4" without a proper kit.

Garyo's kit seems good. All it is really is a set of lengthened/beefier shackles and ball-joint angled spacers up front. Crank the Tbars until it's level and that's it.

Measure out the added articulation and grab a set of shocks to match the lift ratio.

I couldn't get a hold of him either so when my Delica comes in, I'm just going to fabricate the shackles and spacers myself.

Jesse

[patty]

....... wonna fabricate a second pair?................for a fair price ( im on a grocery store salary whilst savin for school)

[delicat]

Patty,

Garyo's 2" lift kit would cost you around $400 (plus shocks if needed and you do the install). If you're interested (or Jesse) let me know and I'll get in touch with him for you.

Cheers,

[delica 304]

Hey, I'd be interested too. Would I have to replace my shocks? I just bought a set of Pro-Comp 9000's, it'd be shame to have to try to trade them in

[jaggedfish]

I believe Garyo set everything up so that original shocks could be reused by way of fabrcated spacers. I was very excited about his kit too and was going to drop by his shop sometime if he's still there to check out the setup. Had a nice slightly nose high stance. Still interested... just haven't had time... almost at the end of renovations....

Cheers,
Ian

[jessef]

....... wonna fabricate a second pair?................for a fair price ( im on a grocery store salary whilst savin for school)

Creekside market ?

[patty]

naw nesters market, aparently its "where the locals shop", cept iv lifed here my whole life and dont recognize half the people there.
anyways off topic much, if you could get in touch with him that would be AWSOME! I REALLY REALLY REALLY wonna lift my van. its been on the list of things to do for waay to long.
thanks

[jessef]

naw nesters market, aparently its "where the locals shop", cept iv lifed here my whole life and dont recognize half the people there.
anyways off topic much, if you could get in touch with him that would be AWSOME! I REALLY REALLY REALLY wonna lift my van. its been on the list of things to do for waay to long.
thanks

Question.

What's the reason you're wanting a lift ?

Reason I ask is because most people I know who want to lift their vehicles higher, literally, 8 out of 10 customers want to do it for looks. (this is coming from a fabricator/4x4 shop in Langley).

It's not smart to lift the Delica higher than it is just for 'looks' because they have a high center of gravity and narrow stance to begin with.

If you go up, you should go wider as well. Up 1", out 2".

I'm going to do a 2" lift and go out on each side, that way I don't loose a crazy amount of stabilization.

My reasoning behind a 2" lift is because I'm carrying more weight (long distance south america trip), will do 90% highway, need larger tires and clear the flares for articulation.

Simply put. I'm going to use the lift for a functional purpose.

If you're looking at putting in a lift like Gary's, you're looking at 4-500 for the kit, about 400-500 for material/labour/fabricating.

$1,000 is the right price point for a 2-3" lift on the Delica if someone experienced does it.

Personally, dumping 1,000 into a Delica to lift it a few inches just for looks to me sounds ridiculous. I can think of many ways to put that grand into a Delica. But that's my lowly opinion

Jesse

[patty]

well right now im running 31s with out any lift at all, which is not suggested.even though i dont rub i always think i will.Im not gonna lie i do want it for looks, but i also would use it as im on narley forestry roads often. plus me and my dad are in a constant competition for who can get there vehicle cooler (Me with the deli and him with a chevy suburban) and he would just shit him self if i were higher then him.I got two buddies that would help me with the lift as there both avid mechanics and i would some what learn and hopfuly become alittle more mechanicly inclined.so i wouldnt have to worry about an installation fee aside from a couple beers.
anyways ill keep tryin to get a hold of gary, his kit seems to be well priced and proven
thanks

[delica 304]

I'll admit, first and foremost it's for the looks. However, I do plan to go off roading this summer with a buddy of mine, so there is a practical aspect to the lift too.

[GREENME@U]

im going to lift mine so i can do logging road ralling and MEGA 4x4in with buddys lol snow rips with chains......to much to list but i just wanted to say.......lifting your van for looks is just one of the many reasens for lifting it? right? its not like they never go of the path i hope u guys put your van in some hairy 4x4in because i do and its been loads of life time fun! i just put a CB radio in mine so i can talk to my friends wile there eating my delicas sh^T in a old chevy behind me Lmao CHEERS:
PS 2"-3"inch LIFTS ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOT MITSUBISHI?
Marty

[delicat]

Hey guys,

Just spoke with Gary and he won't be making any more lift kits. Sorry to break the news...
Sounds like someone else will have to get creative!

Good luck!

[konadog]

me and my dad are in a constant competition for who can get there vehicle cooler (Me with the deli and him with a chevy suburban)

It's subjective, I know, but I just can't imagine anything anyone could do to a Chevy Suburban to make it cooler than even the dumpiest delica!!

[patty]

Well hes got it on matt-tracks ( those tracks some one had on a deli in here earlier, but WAY bigger) with a 12000 pound winch and frequently pulls out are mini pistonbully (groomer).though it does have blue lether seats....................ew