Webasto diesel cooker

[kamil]

Hi, what do you think about this cooker? It will be great for our trip, because there is no need to be worried about gas availability and different types of gas cylinders. Ignore the price, it is not one which I will potentially pay.

http://motorhome.webasto.co.uk/cooking/ ... -x100.html

[FalcoColumbarius]

That looks to be a practical and organised application for for cooking in your van.
However, I would want to know how much diesel one could use up in one cooking session. When I cook over a fire (or stove) I know how much diesel I have in my vehicle as I am using the diesel for only one application; the running of my wagon. Now that we are using the diesel for more than one application then I would be concerned about potentially using up reserves. If you're staying on the beaten path and there are lots of fuelling stations around then no problem but if you are going off the beaten path.... I would want to know cooking kilometres per litre, as it were. Perhaps it's nothing but it would really suck if you used up your reserves by cooking, thinking you had more fuel in your tank for driving.

The other issue, which the people at Webasto also address, is soot build-up. How often must one clean the inner workings of the cooker? I would want to know more. Typically I would want to find a reputable dealer and ask him/her these questions and more that I have yet to think of.

Having said all that ~ the product is on the market which would lead me to think that it's had to go through various tests, &c., I would look more into it, perhaps that's my nature.

Falco.

[jessef]

At around $1,800 that is one expensive cooktop.

[fexlboi]

Before I spend that much money on a Diesel stove, I would rather get another one of these: http://cascadedesigns.com/msr/stoves/ba ... ly/product
Burns great on Diesel and is very compact, but need to be cleaned regularly if you are not burning white gas.
Also Diesel cookers are pretty heavy and bulky. It's nice when you have a lot of room and payload, but not for a Delica.

[Mr. Flibble]

Before I spend that much money on a Diesel stove, I would rather get another one of these: http://cascadedesigns.com/msr/stoves/ba ... ly/product
Burns great on Diesel and is very compact, but need to be cleaned regularly if you are not burning white gas.
Also Diesel cookers are pretty heavy and bulky. It's nice when you have a lot of room and payload, but not for a Delica.

That is exactly the stove I have. It is fantastic.

One word of warning about the Dragon Fly - it burns multi-fuels, burns VERY hot, boils faster than any other stove I have seen...

However, it is also the loudest stove I have ever used. It sounds like a jet engine.

If noise is a concern, go with a Whisperlite.

[fexlboi]

Before I spend that much money on a Diesel stove, I would rather get another one of these: http://cascadedesigns.com/msr/stoves/ba ... ly/product
Burns great on Diesel and is very compact, but need to be cleaned regularly if you are not burning white gas.
Also Diesel cookers are pretty heavy and bulky. It's nice when you have a lot of room and payload, but not for a Delica.

That is exactly the stove I have. It is fantastic.

One word of warning about the Dragon Fly - it burns multi-fuels, burns VERY hot, boils faster than any other stove I have seen...

However, it is also the loudest stove I have ever used. It sounds like a jet engine.

If noise is a concern, go with a Whisperlite.

Agree, I really like the DragonFly too.
The regular WhisperLite doesn't burn anything than white gas though. The WhsiperLite International burns gasoline but no Diesel.
If you want to listen to an even louder stove, try out the Primus OmniFuel, but make sure you bring your ear plugs

As far as I know only the OmniFuel and DragonFly can handle Diesel.

[thedjjack]

My favorite stove: Loudest stove ever built. No pump (I have seen to many MRS pumps break off in the cold), just pour gas on it light a match and it self primes! If you get a newer model one (after 1973 they have a self cleaning jet). Mine has been in full service since 1974!

Only problems, flames scare people, pot can tip off if you are new to this stove, and it always works (never get to spend money on parts or eat uncooked food)! NEVER Leave the adjustment key (and disassemble tool) in the valve with a pot on it makes it red hot and hard to turn!

It likes White Gas, Unlead but will burn anything liquid and flameable (diesel, Jet, etc..)
Toughest stove ever made. For a delica you could get the Hunter model!

Optimus SVEA 123r: loves cold and high elevation, can simmer or melt a pot

http://www.outdoorreview.com/cat/outdoo ... 59crx.aspx



Had a Indian stove I bought in Katmandu for around $1.00 worked the same but had a colman style pump to start. Worked good for $1.00 stove.

Here is the Hunter:

[Firesong]

I have a whisperlite international
It will burn diesel, kerosene and pretty much anything
white gas is the optimum fuel though. Diesel will make the
lines dirty and it's very hard to get going in the cold. It's a last
resort but if your in some remote area and it's the only thing you
have then use it. Use the K jet for it.
Dragged mine around the globe.
Just needs to be cleaned and that's easy to do.

FS

[thedjjack]

Even if a camp stove will burn Diesel...I am not sure I would choose diesel as a primary camp stove fuel.

[konadog]

Nice stuff!
Here's my favourite camp stove - one of my faourite pieces of kit full stop actually. Burns twigs and chips of wood - a hobo stove of exquisite design and craftsmanship and made in Iskut northern BC.
http://www.bushbuddy.ca/

[fexlboi]

I have a whisperlite international

I found the Whisperlite International clogs up way quicker than a OmniFuel or a DragonFly with Diesel (to be Falco-specific I'm talking about Diesel 2 ). I guess that's the reason way MSR doesn't specify it for this type of fuel.

Optimus SVEA 123

Wow, that's a cool stove. Love how basic it is. Some interesting background info on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svea_123

[FalcoColumbarius]

Point of info.: Kerosene, paraffin, jet fuel, stove fuel are all diesel, diesel 1 to be more accurate. The stuff we stick in our machines is diesel 2. The difference is lubricity, in a pinch you could run your wagon on kerosene but it would be hard on the moving bits.

Falco.

P.S.: That is a nice stove, Doggy ~ make use of what is around you. Birch bark fire starter, gotta love that....

[kamil]

That looks to be a practical and organised application for for cooking in your van.
However, I would want to know how much diesel one could use up in one cooking session. When I cook over a fire (or stove) I know how much diesel I have in my vehicle as I am using the diesel for only one application; the running of my wagon. Now that we are using the diesel for more than one application then I would be concerned about potentially using up reserves. If you're staying on the beaten path and there are lots of fuelling stations around then no problem but if you are going off the beaten path.... I would want to know cooking kilometres per litre, as it were. Perhaps it's nothing but it would really suck if you used up your reserves by cooking, thinking you had more fuel in your tank for driving.

The other issue, which the people at Webasto also address, is soot build-up. How often must one clean the inner workings of the cooker? I would want to know more. Typically I would want to find a reputable dealer and ask him/her these questions and more that I have yet to think of.

Having said all that ~ the product is on the market which would lead me to think that it's had to go through various tests, &c., I would look more into it, perhaps that's my nature.

Falco.

Details are here http://motorhome.webasto.co.uk/cooking/ ... -x100.html
Fuel consumption is 0.09-0.18 l/h
We have camping stove, we also have this one http://delica.rajce.idnes.cz/STOVE/ , but I have oportunity to buy anything from Webasto for better price/ we will live in the car for more then 2 years so cooking is important for us/. And we already have a heater.

[thedjjack]

It is a nice looking stove.

What is the plan for layout as you will have to have a permanently mounted stove?

What you driving, where you sleeping?

[fexlboi]

Nice stove!
Partner Steel makes some high-quality products. They are going to build a dry-box for our van in the next few weeks.
Their clear view tank might be interesting for you propane guys

Where did you buy the stove?