Question on Auction Sheets

[delicabits]

would have to put the hj75 troop carriers at the top of the list for toyotas. go anywhere workhorse built to take anything and everything thrown at it.

[jessef]

There appears to be some confusion over in the For Sale area where some heated discussion is taking place. I'm moving my comments here where it belongs.

One example in particular deals with Grading with 'R' = rebuilt or repaired status that is given to some vehicles at auction houses.

The apparent misconception by the continued discussion in the Sale area is that 'R' is given to vehicles that have been in accidents, write-off's, insurance claims, etc ...

While some vehicle graded 'R' at auction, may fall under one of those categories, the 'R' grading can also be used on a vehicle that has had a door, panel, bumper, outside trim, etc... replaced even if the vehicle has never been in any accident's whatsoever.

If anyone is familiar with well-known and respected exporters, you will know that every vehicle bought from an auction gets RE-GRADED once a 'real' inspection has been done on the vehicle. This goes on behind the scenes and this new RE-GRADED information is passed onto the importer, meaning that this van in particular may have been RE-GRADED with a different standard auction grade.

The auction sheet is a guide but everything on it can be altered to suit the seller's/auction house's taste.

[after oil]

There appears to be some confusion over in the For Sale area where some heated discussion is taking place. I'm moving my comments here where it belongs.

One example in particular deals with Grading with 'R' = rebuilt or repaired status that is given to some vehicles at auction houses.

The apparent misconception by the continued discussion in the Sale area is that 'R' is given to vehicles that have been in accidents, write-off's, insurance claims, etc ...

While some vehicle graded 'R' at auction, may fall under one of those categories, the 'R' grading can also be used on a vehicle that has had a door, panel, bumper, outside trim, etc... replaced even if the vehicle has never been in any accident's whatsoever.

If anyone is familiar with well-known and respected exporters, you will know that every vehicle bought from an auction gets RE-GRADED once a 'real' inspection has been done on the vehicle. This goes on behind the scenes and this new RE-GRADED information is passed onto the importer, meaning that this van in particular may have been RE-GRADED with a different standard auction grade.

The auction sheet is a guide but everything on it can be altered to suit the seller's/auction house's taste.

ive seen plenty of R's in the auctions. i usually pass them up because i havent got somebody inspecting for me in japan. is that a prudent course of action? is it a big gamble to bid on an R? the trading company that bids for me wont let me bid on an auto that leaks, smokes, squeals, or otherwise...

[jessef]

You're correct.

It would be prudent to avoid any grade less than 3.5 unless you have a trustworthy person or inspector in Japan that can view the vehicle before your money goes down on it.

If you have a trustworthy person there that can pull up vehicle history/information and do an inspection on it, then the auction grade is mostly a formality that may accurately represent the vehicle or it may not.

There are two people (individuals) that I deal with in Japan that have my vested interest ahead of making a quick buck. After numerous referals and transactions, I have come to trust their judgment and it's been a positive experience for me in return.

Having a small business (single person) in Japan searching for the right vehicle takes time. Sometimes months on end. But in the end, we both end up happy.

[dah_hunter]

Sports cars are a prime example for this issue..

They get Graded R all the time..

Put an Aftermarket Bumper, Hood, and Spoiler.. and the car is an R for sure..

I buy R grade cars sometimes.. Watch the Auction sheet and the XX means the panel has been replaced..

If a Hood or a bumper has that.. well on the Sports cars im buying.. thats normally a good thing.. (Pics confirm if its after-market)

If the Door has a XX.. Close the window and move on.. (Its pretty rare for an aftermarket Door.. LoL)


and of course having someone to inspect the cars is even better..

[William]

I have seen vehicles get marked as R for having a chip in the windscreen usually though if it's been an accident there will be some mention of it in the inspectors comment section of the auction sheet.