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Re: Whipsaw 4x4 wknd overnight - wknd of Sept 10-12

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:44 pm
by tonydca
RichD wrote:
tonydca wrote:Curious if the previous group got to these points, or if the 3-hour detour took a different route.
I believe that we got to the "fun part". I will only go as far as is safe. Honestly I'd be pleased just to explore the area we did a bit more and see whats beyond.
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I suppose there's always those who want to explore as much as possible, and those who want to push the limits of their rigs as much as possible. Whatever floats your boat.

Heck, I'll just be happy to get outta Dodge for a couple of days. I lost count of the number of little explorable side-trails off the main road. I bet you could drive around up there for a week solid and rarely hit the same stretch of road twice.

I'm beginning to see a GPS purchase in my future... 8-)

Re: Whipsaw 4x4 wknd overnight - wknd of Sept 10-12

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:22 am
by elbosque
[quote="RichD"]Here's some video of the really hard parts way past where we got to last week.

The hill climbs look fine but around the 2min mark is where I think the Delicas give up. 8-)

The Roverlanders, who maintain the trail for 4WDABC, have built a bypass bridge for that mud hole. It never use to be bad until some boggers thought digging it up was a good idea. So, unless some hoons have pulled the bridge down or burnt it, you should have an option.

BTW, all BC Delica.ca members should consider joining 4WDABC: http://www.4wdabc.ca/. They and other member 4WD clubs maintain a number of important trails and sites. Check out the monthly maintenance runs out East Harrison, usually every second Saturday in a month.

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* To uphold the established Four Wheeler's Code of Ethics
* To promote recreational activities that involve the off pavement use of four wheel drive vehicles, encourage multiple land use and allow access to the back-country
* To promote responsible attitudes toward the use of public and private lands
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* To encourage land management agencies to develop more areas and trails for multiple uses and to deter land closures
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Re: Whipsaw 4x4 wknd overnight - wknd of Sept 10-12

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:38 am
by RichD
This file has all the waypoints and reveals the entire trail in detail. Open with Mapsource, nroute or other GPS mapping program...

Re: Whipsaw 4x4 wknd overnight - wknd of Sept 10-12

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:10 am
by delicat
Sounds like I might be able to make it again! But those kitchen pass are in limited supply... running thin!

Re: Whipsaw 4x4 wknd overnight - wknd of Sept 10-12

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:16 am
by fexlboi
I'm in as well, but can't leave before 5ish on Friday. Looking forward to check out the rest of the trail.

Re: Whipsaw 4x4 wknd overnight - wknd of Sept 10-12

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:46 pm
by RichD
This is definitely a go. The general consensus is Friday evening; I might go up Friday AM and lock in a campsite.

Camp and meet spot details to follow.

Re: Whipsaw 4x4 wknd overnight - wknd of Sept 10-12

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:46 am
by dennis_lambert
I am going to try to get a kitchen pass!
How long of a haul do you guys guestimate from kelowna....
Cheers.

Re: Whipsaw 4x4 wknd overnight - wknd of Sept 10-12

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:03 am
by RichD
dennis_lambert wrote:How long of a haul do you guys guestimate from kelowna....
Closer than it is for us from Vancouver. - 190km or 2.5hrs. :-D

Re: Whipsaw 4x4 wknd overnight - wknd of Sept 10-12

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:26 pm
by Super Exceeded
Well folks, try as I might, I am not going to get stretch off of the blocks in time to attend.

Totally bummed out :-(
I wish you al the best time.
A

Re: Whipsaw 4x4 wknd overnight - wknd of Sept 10-12

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:33 pm
by jessef
Who's going ?

Re: Whipsaw 4x4 wknd overnight - wknd of Sept 10-12

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:35 pm
by fexlboi
jfarsang wrote:Who's going ?
Are you thinking to join us?

or at least try to make it :-)

Re: Whipsaw 4x4 wknd overnight - wknd of Sept 10-12

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:49 pm
by jessef
8-)

The usual. I will 'try' :-D

Re: Whipsaw 4x4 wknd overnight - wknd of Sept 10-12

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:57 pm
by RichD
There is no try, only do... or do not!

Quite a few people have expressed their intention to make an appearance at the Whipsaw this weekend. A couple have backed out due to mechanical/personal challenges but more than twice as many have emailed me in their stead. Some would rather stay home and bake cookies. We shall see who is made of what when we see who shows up on the mountain...
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Here, my friends, is the itinerary:

- Friday afternoon, check in at the Eastgate fuel station/diner. If you are the first to get there, leave a note on the pay phone please. Following peeps please leave your mark. (If you are approaching from the East, don't bother driving to Eastgate.)

- Friday night "low camp" is just a few clicks up the FSR at N49.28672 W120.67562. I know that some wanted to camp high on Friday, but there are too may late arrivals and I want them to be able to meet on the Whipsaw. This is the meeting spot until 9AM Saturday.

- Saturday night "high camp" is going to be near the "Holding Cabin w/ Grave" - N49.2983969 W120.8444714. This is also going to be the lunch meeting spot on Saturday.
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When you arrive at the cross, look for the camp some ways behind the cabin. Markers will be left on the cabin.

- If you arrive in Manning Park too late even to attempt entry into the FSR , you will find an easy camp spot by the road just past Eastgate Fuel/Diner at this location. If you camp here, be prepared to hit the road befor 8AM if you want to meet us at low camp by 9AM.

- The Saturday lunch meeting spot will be decided on site and a note will be left at the Holding cabin. If you are coming in on Saturday morning early, also check the lower camp spot for a note.

Before you drive up, please familiarize yourself with the Whipsaw FSR. Do not take the Lamont, do not veer right onto the Corral Creek road. The Coastal Mountains maps are crap for this trail. Look at this link.

Re: Whipsaw 4x4 wknd overnight - wknd of Sept 10-12

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:51 pm
by fexlboi
If our second night is that close to the first night are we even able to make the hole loop?
Also there is no mention of additional fuel. I assume everyone brings their own extra fuel cans? 20-40l?

Re: Whipsaw 4x4 wknd overnight - wknd of Sept 10-12

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:30 am
by RichD
fexlboi wrote:If our second night is that close to the first night are we even able to make the hole loop?
Also there is no mention of additional fuel. I assume everyone brings their own extra fuel cans? 20-40l?
It is extremely unlikely that we could do the whole loop in one weekend, and I am quite certain that the way we go in is the way we get out.

Depending on what happens on the ground, we can decide to push in further but we need an accessible meeting point established so that we can leave a message or go get the stragglers. That is why the meeting places are both within reach of the main road.

Nonetheless Felix's question has merit. We should know who to expect on Saturday. If you haven't emailed me yet - radagenais at gmail dot com - or call/text seven-seven-eight, nine-eight-seven, four-three-three-five please do so before Friday so I can have a head count. Cheers. Please mention your intended departure time and your contact info.

Fill your tank with diesel before going in. I would highly recommend bringing an additional fuel can.

Even more importantly, make sure you have enough food and water and warm clothes.