Poor driving style

[audi4life20v]

Yea you gotta Rip Dat' E-brake and powa Ova! For it to be a drift.

Curious myself about the stability of a deli in a drift.....?

[jrman]

Oh...the Deli's drift very well in the snow and when given a nudge by the bush bumper from a 1982 Silverado operated by an apologitic young man as he entered a corner on Alta Lake road near Whistler with front wheels at full lock and driving straight into my lane....happy new year to me....Jan 1, 2010 - gotta go up hill from here I say!

[Spearo]

Oh...the Deli's drift very well in the snow and when given a nudge by the bush bumper from a 1982 Silverado operated by an apologitic young man as he entered a corner on Alta Lake road near Whistler with front wheels at full lock and driving straight into my lane....happy new year to me....Jan 1, 2010 - gotta go up hill from here I say!

That's brutal- sorry to hear. Speaks to the shitty training needed to get a license. I'd say it's BC drivers on a ski hill but there are so many Alberta drivers that have no clue what to do in the snow that I wont! Not anything you could have done there- the other guy needs some lessons.

One of the things about our Delica's is the very small wheelbase, which makes for very quick loss of control if the rear kicks out. When traction's lost they won't give you much time to correct, and it's really easy to over-correct. I lost it on sheer ice on the highway in my 4xTOY van years ago, and I was in the ditch before I knew it. A longer wheelbase vehicle will start slipping with a little more notice.
Cheers,
Erik

[Modsqwad]

One of the things about our Delica's is the very small wheelbase, which makes for very quick loss of control if the rear kicks out. When traction's lost they won't give you much time to correct, and it's really easy to over-correct. I lost it on sheer ice on the highway in my 4xTOY van years ago, and I was in the ditch before I knew it. A longer wheelbase vehicle will start slipping with a little more notice.
Cheers,
Erik

You got that right. I find this short wheel base to be very twitchy in poor traction. I had the rear end passing me before Christmas
on I5 in the black ice hole north of Eugene Or. I had all the seats out so was very light in the back at the time and was lucky to get
it back in line before it went too far wrong. Its worth mentioning this trait to all the new owners we are seeing here from colder
climes. Beware the dreaded end swap!
Andy (Stay home when its icy) Wilson

[Spearo]

Cheers Andy. I have 2 sandbags in the back and wicked Geolander winter tires to help make sure I don't have to deal with that! 4x4 stays locked on all Winter too.

[FalcoColumbarius]

Evidently you did not read all the post. I was braking straight ~ when the other driver braked I turned the steering wheel, which is when I went sideways for 20 or 30 feet. Had I been better trained I would have considered powering into the lane that the other driver had previously occupied. The lane was narrow with a concrete wall immediately beside it. The problem had been solved, I didn't need to create a new one.

Respectably, Falco.

I thought I read the entire post, I assumed (possibly wrongly) that you didn't go full throttle while avoiding that accident, if your not spinning your drive wheels it's not a power slide, it's just a slide, or a skid.

Smiles... Okay, you got me on a technicality.

I did not drop the clutch; engage the E-brake; throw the RPMs up to four grand as I swung the wheel to ninety degrees; shift into second gear; simultaneously release the E-brake and pop the clutch. If I did that I would have; a/ been driving a manual transmission; b/ had to use my hand winch to retrieve the MLB from Lost Lagoon; and c/ negotiated the cost of replacing the wall with the public authorities.

Other than being in a sideways "skid" (similar to a drift, no?), I had quite a bit of control in the situation, as exciting as it was. When I locked up, she totally braked forward and would have continued to do so had I not turned the wheel. If one has their Delica properly aligned and the brakes equally set then the vehicle will brake in one attitude.

I remember when I first purchased the Miss Lil' Bitchi; I was driving down Lonsdale. I was very new to driving on the low side of the camber. There was another Delica ahead of me, turning left onto Keith Road, you know, where Lonsdale doesn't level out at that junction? As I was going that way, anyway, I followed him. He just threw his Deli into that corner. When I went around that corner, I swear, I thought I was going to roll the MLB.

Since then I have acclimatized to the low side of the camber and since the the Causeway incident I have gained a lot more trust & understanding in the vehicle displacement. These vehicles, when properly tuned and maintained have got to be really great vans, man.

What this has to do with Profister getting cut off by a blue over white Delica? Not a lot. So who hijacked this thread anyway?

Falco.

[marsgal42]

Is it just me, or are there a lot of vehicles on the road with expired insurance nowadays? I seem to see one or two every time I'm on the road. An orange insurance sticker (2009) sticks out like a sore thumb in a sea of green (2010) and the occasional yellow-with-a-hint-of-orange (2011).

I'm sure people rationalize it by saying they can't afford to renew, and as long as they don't have an accident it's OK, but if they do (especially if somebody gets hurt), they're majorly screwed.

...laura

[Profister]

In 2008 I have been hit in my brand new Suzuki SX4 by one of those who could not afford the renewal. After waiting for 2 weeks for a new rear bumper I did not loose a dime as I did not need to pay my deductible; ICBC went after the guy. Believe it or not I did not feel sorry for him.

[Spearo]

In 2008 I have been hit in my brand new Suzuki SX4 by one of those who could not afford the renewal. After waiting for 2 weeks for a new rear bumper I did not loose a dime as I did not need to pay my deductible; ICBC went after the guy. Believe it or not I did not feel sorry for him.

What's the fine for driving without insurance in BC?

[audi4life20v]

Sorry to see your Delica in that shape =/ but yea It can only go uphill from here! My car died on the 2nd so Im hopeing it goes uphill eventually XD
You would think that living in canda drivers might learn that when there's snow on the ground it miiight be a bad idea to Turn,brake, panic all at once.

And I gotta agree Albertians I have to say are pretty terrible on icey roads, Kinda fun to blaze by people on hwy 16 when its snowy out let alone slick! XD

Umm Just wondering what is the wheelbase on a L300 or l400 SWB?
My lil Audi is at 99.9 in. (2537 mm) for a wheelbase, But the whole engine is situated completly over the front axel also with my Aerodynamics I assume this make's a differnt driving feel as well as center of gravity ect ect. But A Delica in 4H shouldnt be too much of a challange to keep straight on the winter roads =/ Unless my young ignorence is kicking in and AWD is in fact a huge differnce in feel then 4x4...