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Re: Bypass Oil Filters

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:26 am
by jwfchase
http://www.delica.ca/forum/site-rule-483.html

Just thought I'd better throw that one out there...

Re: Bypass Oil Filters

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:40 am
by FalcoColumbarius
Good call, JW.
“When music and courtesy are better understood and appreciated, there will be no war” ~ Confucius (孔子,551-479BCE)

Falco.

Re: Bypass Oil Filters

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:00 pm
by psilosin
okokok edited.... 8-)

Re: Bypass Oil Filters

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:39 pm
by Firesong
First step done today: Where to mount the silly
thing. Not alot of space and I still use and want my
dual battery setup. Decided to mount behind the
passenger side tire. Opposite of the airfilter.
Since the Frantz can be installed in any position
it will work

Tomorrow comes... the install.
FS

Re: Bypass Oil Filters

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:16 pm
by Firesong
Ok got to the install.

Total job including getting it mounted which.. took a bit of time.
3-4 hours. 1/3 was the mounting (including finding the place)

Installed not too bad. I really would have appreciated the ability
to shrink the size of my hands. Tiny spaces.

Oil source was the pressure sender unit. Easy to do. 1" socket
to undo the sender, only small drips of oil (constant). Put the
included 'T' in. I also stuck one of the extra 45 angle fittings
in. One thing to make this a little easier is:
1. Take the sender off (1" deep socket)
2. Put the thread sealer on all the fittings to be used.
3. Put the sender unit on the 't' beforehand. If you are
using a 45 fitting or something else, put it on too. Allows
you to put the thread sealer on without it being all oily.
4. To get the 'T' to thread on easy, put the oil pressure
sender back in the socket with extension and thread it back
in via the socket.
5. Then stick the hose on the fitting and off you go.

I had enough hose to do this out of the kit.
Decided to have the return oil going into the cap.

Here are the pics.
btw I had a look at the flow of oil out the cap while it was running.
It really pushes it through!

Firesong

Re: Bypass Oil Filters

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:18 pm
by Firesong
More pics
I did confirm that this unit will work in any position.
Sideways, upside etc.

FS

Re: Bypass Oil Filters

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:10 pm
by psilosin
Cool cool! What location did you choose as the oil source?

Re: Bypass Oil Filters

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:58 pm
by Jsq
Nice work mate. You must have a garage to work in unless you managed to pull a forcefield out of your pocket today to keep this nasty weather off. Where did you buy your kit from? Local or ordered? Congrats on a nice mod!

Re: Bypass Oil Filters

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:32 pm
by Firesong
Couldn't work today outside so I had some me time
in the maintenance shed right next to the bobcat and kabota tractors.
Crazy weather!

Got the kit from a guy in Calgary. Family brought it to toon town for me.
$220 no tax.

Worked out good.

FS

Re: Bypass Oil Filters

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:28 pm
by jessef
Drumster wrote:
jfarsang wrote:I had the amsoil dual bypass kit on my Pajero.

Well worth the inital cost IMO.

Going to put one on the Delica as well when I get the chance. Not enough time to do anything ! :? :-D
So it sounds like you had the BMK-23 kit and your hi-flow filter was relocated away from the stock location? What did you use for the ring/adapter part? Amsoil evidently doesn't currently offer an adapter for our 26 x 1.5 mm size (4M40 engine), which I expect was the same for your Pajero.
They do have a 22 x 1.5 mm and I wonder if it could be drilled out & re-threaded in the larger bore. I've seen a photo of the adapter but couldn't see the inner workings etc. Do you recall its construction and how you went about installation and do you think simply resizing Amsoil's 22 mm adapter would work?

Cheers!
I had the BMK23 and had an adaptor made up at a machine shop.

That was years ago. Now, I'd get the 22 and tap it.

Re: Bypass Oil Filters

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:12 pm
by Drumster
jfarsang wrote:
Drumster wrote:
jfarsang wrote:I had the amsoil dual bypass kit on my Pajero.

Well worth the inital cost IMO.

Going to put one on the Delica as well when I get the chance. Not enough time to do anything ! :? :-D
So it sounds like you had the BMK-23 kit and your hi-flow filter was relocated away from the stock location? What did you use for the ring/adapter part? Amsoil evidently doesn't currently offer an adapter for our 26 x 1.5 mm size (4M40 engine), which I expect was the same for your Pajero.
They do have a 22 x 1.5 mm and I wonder if it could be drilled out & re-threaded in the larger bore. I've seen a photo of the adapter but couldn't see the inner workings etc. Do you recall its construction and how you went about installation and do you think simply resizing Amsoil's 22 mm adapter would work?

Cheers!
I had the BMK23 and had an adaptor made up at a machine shop.

That was years ago. Now, I'd get the 22 and tap it.
I see.
After having checked around a bit I've found that the M26 x1.5 tap is not exactly common for some reason; and not exactly cheap either. I was thinking I'd buy the tap and do it myself but it might actually be less expensive to simply have a machine shop tap the adaptor out for me (assuming I can find one with the correct tap).
BTW, in an answer to my e-mail, Amsoil recommended buying the M20 x 1.5 to drill out & tap rather than the 22. In any case and regardless of who does the tapping it seems to me that it would require a "bottoming" tap rather than a tapered, because as far as I can tell the other end of the adapter itself has a smaller I.D. and I wouldn't want to cut into that section, which would seem to be inevitable using a tapered tap. This is just an assumption/deduction on my part as I have yet to see any of the actual parts other that in diagram form. But I think it's a safe bet that a bottoming, rather than tapered tap is the way to go.

Re: Bypass Oil Filters

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:24 pm
by Drumster
jfarsang wrote:I had the amsoil dual bypass kit on my Pajero.

Well worth the inital cost IMO.

Going to put one on the Delica as well when I get the chance. Not enough time to do anything ! :? :-D

I had the BMK23 and had an adaptor made up at a machine shop.

That was years ago. Now, I'd get the 22 and tap it.
Jesse, I find myself hesitating to go ahead with this because I'm unsure as to where to best mount the BMK23 and I'd hate to find out that I can't properly fit it in anywhere.
(I'll probably remove my oil catch can altogether to start or else replace it with something much smaller & relocate somewhere over on battery side - using a simple breather rather than return to airbox.)
As you've owned a BMK23 in the past and have an L400 now, could you recommend how and exactly where you'd mount the dual Kit? I'd be much obliged.
Thank you.
Cheers!
Tim

Re: Bypass Oil Filters

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:57 am
by Drumster
robinimpey wrote:
Fishtank wrote:Bionic and Robin, would you guys mind posting some pictures of your setups. Just so we have an idea of fitting and hose routing.

Thanks.
Hey Fishtank, don't know if you ever got your filter installed, but here's some pics of what I did and it seems to be working well for me. It took longer to change the battery and mount the filter than it did to run the lines. I think an hour and a half all total would get it installed. Another note is that the frantz kit came with NO extra hose. 2 " shorter and it wouldn't have been enough. The supply line runs out of the battery compartment across the front of the motor and down the other side. The return line runs out of the battery compartment and down to the oil pan.
Do you know or can anyone tell me where the oil sending unit is on an L400?
(I may have to go with the single bypass because at least I can fit one in the available space. So far, I can't see a suitable mounting location for the dual unit, which is larger but is what I'd prefer to have.)

Re: Bypass Oil Filters

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:03 am
by Mr. Flibble
Drumster wrote:
Do you know or can anyone tell me where the oil sending unit is on an L400?
(I may have to go with the single bypass because at least I can fit one in the available space. So far, I can't see a suitable mounting location for the dual unit, which is larger but is what I'd prefer to have.)
When you look in the PDF manual, it seems to be right next to the vacuum pump. (I don't have my deli yet to look!)

Re: Bypass Oil Filters

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:00 pm
by Drumster
bionic wrote:..currently running the Amsoil dual bypass kit from TYVTAYLOR (Ebay)...purchased the Dodge Cummins Diesel remote kit for 179.00. The Mitsu's oil filter is 26mmx1.5mm and the Dodge is 1" x 16 tpi (quick math for you is the mitsubishi is .6 larger in diameter and thread pitch is closer to 18-20)..simply re-threaded the remote adapter then installed...no problem...and no more expensive filters that are not as good as the 2-4micron units available for the kit through Amsoil. :-D I'll post pics with the intercooler/injection install later in the month when its all finished.
I still haven't come to a decision on which unit and which brand I can find space under the hood for and I'm still trying to figure out how to simply identify the oil sending unit on my 4M40. And now that I'm finally reading all the posts in this thread :oops: I just now noticed that you've "been there - done that" with all this. Did you re-thread the Amsoil adapter yourself or take it to a shop? Assuming you did it yourself and have the M26x1.5 tap, would you be willing to rent it out to me if I end up going that route? :-) Or if you went to a machine shop... which was it?
Cheers!