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Where to get hard pipes for the 2800.

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:15 pm
by gtr
I keep hearing people raving about switching the rubber intercooler pipes to the metal ones on the 2800 and I want to do it to my pajero but cant seem to find any for sale anyone have any advice.

Regards

Steve

Re: Where to get hard pipes for the 2800.

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:45 pm
by jessef
Take the rubber one's to a muffler shop and have them bend up stainless or aluminum ones

Re: Where to get hard pipes for the 2800.

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:52 pm
by sasquatch-hunter
Just use Pringles!

Re: Where to get hard pipes for the 2800.

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:54 pm
by Profister
jfarsang wrote:Take the rubber one's to a muffler shop and have them bend up stainless or aluminum ones
...and make sure you have enough money in your pocket. This was a $600 job:

Re: Where to get hard pipes for the 2800.

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:56 pm
by deli1733
Profister I'm thinking of doing this to my pajero at some point, did you notice a big difference?

Re: Where to get hard pipes for the 2800.

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:31 pm
by madmazda
I made my own out of copper fittings soldered it up and what a big difference in acceleration I don't know how to put pics on here or I would... :-D

Re: Where to get hard pipes for the 2800.

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:32 pm
by jessef
There is no 'big' difference.

The big difference you will notice is if you spend that same amount of money on a 2.5" exhaust.

I swapped back and forth stock with stainless tubing (on three different L400's) and there was no difference on the tach/speedo/pyro/boost/oil pressure gauges or at the throttle.

If you think you feel a difference then maybe it's in your head. :-D Unless your stock hoses were in poor shape to begin with. Then you'll notice a difference.

So long as the rubber hoses are in good shape, you will see no performance gain at all. If your hoses are folding on the inside and flexing like a wet noodle, then you will see a performance gain going to 'regular' stock hoses or solid pipes.

With that said, there is no reason not to get them done. I'm just saying that it's really one of the last things on the list for a performance gain.

Profister. Who charged you $600 ?!?! For that much, you should get both tubes mandrel bent (no welding) with stainless steel tubing.

Re: Where to get hard pipes for the 2800.

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:48 pm
by madmazda
well my head is full of a lot of crap jesse lol being a plumber and all ha ha ha.... but the difference wasn't a big one so you are right there but it felt like it had a bit more pop at the initial acceleration... I did however use from the turbo all 2 inch ( 50 mm ) copper pipe to the intercooler then had to use 1.5 inch from the top of the intercooler to the intake manifold.... not sure if the wee bit extra air going from the turbo helped but I'm sure it didn't hurt.... I do agree 100 % one should increase size of exhaust to 2.5 or 3 inch cause making a diesel breath makes great torque for sure I know on my mazda 1.6 l turbo car that when I went from the puny 1.5 inch exhaust to the 2.5 inch it not only automatically increased boost by about 5 psi but the egt's went down a lot too

Re: Where to get hard pipes for the 2800.

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:24 pm
by jessef
The 2" from the turbo will help.

Any place where air is passing through and you can enlarge that area will be good so long as the exhaust is larger as well.

Right off the bat, a larger inner diameter exhaust will net you a good increase in performance.

Re: Where to get hard pipes for the 2800.

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:33 pm
by Profister
deli1733: I did not replace the original hoses yet; waiting for the silicone couplers to come from Hong Kong.

Re: Where to get hard pipes for the 2800.

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:34 pm
by madmazda
well thats definitely my next move this year either 2.5 or 3 inch exhaust.... since it's a 2.8 l probably 3 if I can swing it....

Re: Where to get hard pipes for the 2800.

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:23 pm
by Profister
Well than you have to spare at least $1,000 to get this:
https://picasaweb.google.com/profister/ ... directlink

Re: Where to get hard pipes for the 2800.

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:32 pm
by fexlboi
Looks like a nice job from Muffler Tech in Po Co 8-)

Re: Where to get hard pipes for the 2800.

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:52 pm
by Profister
You bet. You know who sent me there. :-D

Re: Where to get hard pipes for the 2800.

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:20 am
by Drumster
Very nice Sergie! I'll have to go there too... as soon as I win the lotto!
Profister wrote:Well than you have to spare at least $1,000 to get this:
https://picasaweb.google.com/profister/ ... directlink