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Turbo timer
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:58 pm
by nxski
At the moment I'm quite content to sit in the van for 30 seconds before turing it off however I get the feeling that I will try to shorten the time more and more in the future so I'm looking at getting a turbo timer.
Has anyone had experience with this one? (It's cheap so I'm wary)
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/1-7-lcd-ty ... -set-42505
Also, has the install been quite easy? I've looks for threads on it but couldn't find any. If I've had a blond moment then I appologize and I will blame it on being sick.
Re: Turbo timer
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:50 pm
by deli1733
You should install a pyro, then you will know when its safe to shut down. I have a pretty long and downgrade driveway so i shift my van into first and by the time I pull up to the house temps are down to 300.
Re: Turbo timer
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:25 pm
by Manitoba deli
Most of the command start systems available now have a turbo timer when set for diesel mode, so with that you get keyless entry, command start, and turbo timer.
Jason
Re: Turbo timer
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:12 pm
by nxski
Pyro would be a good idea as well. I'm trying to stay cheap for the next couple months though. Is that a very expensive upgrade?
Are the command start systems expensive? Seems like there would be a fair amount of work for installation.
Thanks
Re: Turbo timer
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:14 pm
by deli1733
the pyro costs under 200 dollars for a high quality one i think, i got mine from a member for half off and i installed it in the egr blanking plate. so for me it cost under 100$ To me tho its a priceless must have for the l-300's, it changed the way i drive my van.
Re: Turbo timer
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:24 pm
by nxski
Good to know, I'll probably end up getting one but I definitely can't afford it now.
Re: Turbo timer
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:09 am
by Yokohama
Are you concerned about "coking"? Synthetic oil will not coke under normal usage. I suppose if you subjected synthetic oil to tempratures much higher than seen in your turbo, it may coke.
You should run Mobil 1! I say this because a PAO molecule based oil is superior to esters (such as Redline and Royal Purple, and numerous oils such as the one marketed by Top Secret in Japan <WAY OVER PRICED>). However, ester based oils are not bad, and certainly better than regular oil, but just not as good as PAO's like Mobil 1.
AND DEFINITELY AVOID CASTROL SYNTECH!!! I read the reports and the court case documents that resulted from the lawsuit over the definition of the synthetic molecule. Castrol's definition of a synthetic molecule is seriously WRONG!!!
I like to run Mobil 1 5w40 Turbo Diesel Truck in my gasoline 4G64 powered L300 (we never got the diesel in the USA). Mobil 1 TDT may also still be known as Mobil Delvac 1. This is the same oil that big-rigs use, but is approved for mix fleet use, meaning it is fine for gasoline.
Also, M1 TDT has a higher content of the anti-wear additives, phosphorus and zinc. The levels used in M1 TDT are the levels that used to be used in all the Mobil 1 range, before the Federal Government (USA) made them lower the levels to help preserve catalytic converter life (in gasoline cars).
I did a lot of research into oil; there is so much biased information and personal opinion on the Internet, it is hard to figure out anything. No, wonder you have guys just saying things that sound like repeats of the ads they read in car magazines!!!
Re: Turbo timer
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:28 pm
by JHelzer
I can't say about the installation, but the Delica I just picked up has a turbo timer in it. Works really simple and you can program it to run for 1-99 minutes before it shuts down.
I get a lot of strange looks when I walk away from my running van. That and it sings a tune every time I start and stop the bus. My kids get a kick out of that part.
I do intend to install a pyro and blanking plate in the spring, but for now I just run her gentle and let her run for a bit after I park.
John
Re: Turbo timer
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:06 pm
by nxski
JHelzer wrote:I can't say about the installation, but the Delica I just picked up has a turbo timer in it. Works really simple and you can program it to run for 1-99 minutes before it shuts down.
I get a lot of strange looks when I walk away from my running van. That and it sings a tune every time I start and stop the bus. My kids get a kick out of that part.
I do intend to install a pyro and blanking plate in the spring, but for now I just run her gentle and let her run for a bit after I park.
John
That's what I've been doing so far. I think I'll stick with this approach until schools over and I'm rolling in the Benjamin's.
Yokohama wrote:Are you concerned about "coking"? Synthetic oil will not coke under normal usage. I suppose if you subjected synthetic oil to tempratures much higher than seen in your turbo, it may coke.
What is coke? Do you mean cook? I'm not too sure what's going in there right now. I know the oil is 15W40 but I take the vehicle in for servicing and upgrades that I can't do myself more than every 6,000km so I just get CVI to do the work for me at the same time. I'll look into oil more when I have the time and am not heading into the shop so often.
Thanks for all the help!
You should run Mobil 1! I say this because a PAO molecule based oil is superior to esters (such as Redline and Royal Purple, and numerous oils such as the one marketed by Top Secret in Japan <WAY OVER PRICED>). However, ester based oils are not bad, and certainly better than regular oil, but just not as good as PAO's like Mobil 1.
AND DEFINITELY AVOID CASTROL SYNTECH!!! I read the reports and the court case documents that resulted from the lawsuit over the definition of the synthetic molecule. Castrol's definition of a synthetic molecule is seriously WRONG!!!
I like to run Mobil 1 5w40 Turbo Diesel Truck in my gasoline 4G64 powered L300 (we never got the diesel in the USA). Mobil 1 TDT may also still be known as Mobil Delvac 1. This is the same oil that big-rigs use, but is approved for mix fleet use, meaning it is fine for gasoline.
Also, M1 TDT has a higher content of the anti-wear additives, phosphorus and zinc. The levels used in M1 TDT are the levels that used to be used in all the Mobil 1 range, before the Federal Government (USA) made them lower the levels to help preserve catalytic converter life (in gasoline cars).
I did a lot of research into oil; there is so much biased information and personal opinion on the Internet, it is hard to figure out anything. No, wonder you have guys just saying things that sound like repeats of the ads they read in car magazines!!!
Re: Turbo timer
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:22 am
by Yokohama
No, I MEAN COKING! It is a condition suffered when the oil is literally heated to the point that is forms a black carbon looking substance inside the turbo's bearing section!
The idea of course is that you let the oil circulate though at idle to get the bearings cooled and the hot oil out.
The other thing that helps avoid coking is a water cooled turbo, as there is always water to help dissipate the heat, and not just the oil.
Turbocharger turbine shaft coking:
Re: Turbo timer
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:44 pm
by nxski
That makes more sense. Thanks for the quick turbo lesson!