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oh $hit my manual locking hubs nearly came off
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:30 am
by after oil
i was in montana.. or was it idaho? last week and i was checking the tire pressure when i noticed grease all over the rim
i pulled in to the nearest shop and they tightened it down for me...
who knows how long that was like that?!
Re: oh $hit my manual locking hubs nearly came off
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:13 am
by thedjjack
Nice save....I see some lock-tight in your near future.
Re: oh $hit my manual locking hubs nearly came off
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:42 am
by fexlboi
Reminds me of a "little" incident I had a while ago with one of my wheels.
Did you hand tightened the bolts or did you use a torque wrench?
Do you use a gasket between the flange and the hub?
Re: oh $hit my manual locking hubs nearly came off
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:10 pm
by after oil
fexlboi wrote:Reminds me of a "little" incident I had a while ago with one of my wheels.
Did you hand tightened the bolts or did you use a torque wrench?
Do you use a gasket between the flange and the hub?
i tightened the bolts with on air wrench
i do not recall putting a gasket in there. if the hubs didnt come with it, and maybe i missed it in install posts.. i would not have done it. im gonna repack my bearings next week...
thedjjack wrote:Nice save....I see some lock-tight in your near future.
i keep thining i dont need to buy cuz ill barely ever use it and the tube will dry up nad get wasted. now i think i should just carry it around in my pocket and put it everywhere that has a bolt
Re: oh $hit my manual locking hubs nearly came off
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:49 pm
by fexlboi
after oil wrote:i do not recall putting a gasket in there. if the hubs didnt come with it, and maybe i missed it in install posts.. i would not have done it. im gonna repack my bearings next week...
Adding a gasket could help. At least it would keep the water out and the grease in. I still have a few left over. PM me your address and I'll drop a couple in the mail...
Re: oh $hit my manual locking hubs nearly came off
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:48 pm
by after oil
Here is the damage from driving with loose manual hubs:
note the missing teeth at 5 o'clock
and here is what happens when your hubs are not locked:
the rear wheels slid sideways and off the road. a tree stopped me from rolling. i only got a tiny dent onth corner of the door, even the lights were spared! another Delica came down to pull me out. then i went to the bottom and took a run at it and got up
i put the Autos back on
i have one Yijia Manual Hub for sale, and parts for another
Re: oh $hit my manual locking hubs nearly came off
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:29 pm
by jessef
The Aisin's are literally bulletproof with the only wear internally being the collar sleeve and that's a big if.
I've never in my life seen Aisin's shear like that at a specific area (not the entire circumference) and cannot find a single person who has either hubs tight or loose.
There are chinese copies of Aisin's floating around and they may look identical to Aisin's but the metal/casing/sleeve's may not be up to Aisin's tolerances and you may get slop. If you get slop, then premature wear may be a reality down the road.
Not sure what your Aisin copies look like but these are what real Aisin's look like for a comparison and the last pic is the sleeve that tends to wear over time and be replaced.
Re: oh $hit my manual locking hubs nearly came off
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:43 pm
by Rising Sun Auto Import
jfarsang wrote:The Aisin's are literally bulletproof with the only wear internally being the collar sleeve and that's a big if.
I've never in my life seen Aisin's shear like that at a specific area (not the entire circumference) and cannot find a single person who has either hubs tight or loose.
There are chinese copies of Aisin's floating around and they may look identical to Aisin's but the metal/casing/sleeve's may not be up to Aisin's tolerances and you may get slop. If you get slop, then premature wear may be a reality down the road.
These are what real Aisin's look like for a comparison

X2.
We are selling Original Aisin with new bolts and washers.
There's nothing good with cheap price.
http://www.delica.ca/forum/manual-hub-a ... -9447.html
Re: oh $hit my manual locking hubs nearly came off
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:58 pm
by after oil
my hubs are Yijia brand
Re: oh $hit my manual locking hubs nearly came off
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:35 pm
by after oil
for the record, BOTH sides have sheared teeth. i thought id check it out. the other side was bolted down tight. i barely ever even locked these things.....
Re: oh $hit my manual locking hubs nearly came off
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:05 pm
by jessef
ouch. sorry to hear. if you have both sides sheared like that, then I'd bet my Safari that it's low grade metal cast.
The superwinch hubs are adequate

Re: oh $hit my manual locking hubs nearly came off
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:26 pm
by after oil
sorry to hear for a bunch of folks here who got those hubs.. guess my allowance for manual hubs has been spent. ill stick to the Autos for now
Re: oh $hit my manual locking hubs nearly came off
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:15 am
by Firesong
Whoa guys!!!
Those teeth are missing on purpose.
That's where the inner spring threads into the groove.
Seriously!!!
The spring threads in and pulls the unit back etc using
the spring as the unit is locked and unlocked.
Mine are like that as well.
Does that mean that your bet entitles me to your safari?
Firesong
Re: oh $hit my manual locking hubs nearly came off
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:33 am
by fexlboi
After Oil, as far as I can tell from the photo, there is nothing wrong with the gear. As Firesong already said these teeth are suppose to be missing for the spring to fit. They are missing on the gear of the Aisin hubs (photos) as well.
Re: oh $hit my manual locking hubs nearly came off
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:04 am
by jessef
I should have looked closer.

Thought it was the splined shaft collar that the teeth sheared.
Safari's on me ! They're the little drinks with umbrella's, right ?
