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Can remove key, van still runs for 60 seconds
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:35 am
by fear4fun
Title explains it all. I can shut the van off, remove the key lock the doors and leave but the van will run for exactly another 60 seconds. I did find that if I turned the van off while in gear (Drive or Reverse) the van shuts off immediately and I can then shift to park.
Anyone know where I should start looking for this gremlin? Did some searching but wasn't finding anything that matched this.
Re: Can remove key, van still runs for 60 seconds
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:48 am
by bionic
...sounds like you have a turbo timer installed. Check if you have a "mystery" box attached with some wires leading to your ignition. Most timers are small units with green, red, or yellow led's with 30/60/90 settings on them.
Re: Can remove key, van still runs for 60 seconds
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:49 am
by yojimbo
You have a turbo timer installed, a small box somewhere, that will keep the engine running to allow the head temperature to calm down, and for the turbo to spin down before the oil feed is shut off.
Re: Can remove key, van still runs for 60 seconds
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:50 am
by TardisDeli
Turbo x3
Re: Can remove key, van still runs for 60 seconds
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:08 pm
by FalcoColumbarius
One minute or sixty seconds is a standard set-up for a turbo-timer. X4. Lucky you... smiles.
Falco.
Re: Can remove key, van still runs for 60 seconds
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:09 pm
by fear4fun
So is it just coincidence that this just started? It has never done it before and I've owned the van for 2 years. I guess it is related to the temperature outside? Still strange that it wouldn't have done this last year when it was hot either.
Re: Can remove key, van still runs for 60 seconds
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:47 pm
by CREGAN
I just had my Turbo Timer removed because it acted the same as yours. It worked twice in the year and a half I have owned my van, both times kind of freaking me out. I don't think these timers are "professionally" installed. I decided it was better to just rip it out. I am the timer now
Craig
Re: Can remove key, van still runs for 60 seconds
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:21 pm
by FalcoColumbarius
The plot thickens.
It's not related to temperature, engine or environmental. The turbo timer is programmed to run a certain length of time. I control mine manually (I push a button on my fob). Could you have somehow recently turned something on that was dormant before? Or maybe as Cregan says ~ something that was poorly installed. Are there other features with your Space Gear, such as a remote start?
Falco.
Re: Can remove key, van still runs for 60 seconds
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:39 pm
by fear4fun
Nope, nothing fancy on mine. Can't think of anything that would have triggered it to start either. Hadn't done any work or replaced any parts. Totally random. Anyway, it will be in the shop Wednesday and I'll have the mechanic confirm that this is what is happening and see if he can find the little gremlin which caused it to start working.
Re: Can remove key, van still runs for 60 seconds
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:43 pm
by FalcoColumbarius
Bizarre, let us know what happens.
Falco.
Re: Can remove key, van still runs for 60 seconds
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:01 am
by jaggedfish
Just throwing this out there... it is conceivable that a turbo timer COULD have a temperature sensor as part of the logic of the timer function. It wouldn't be rocket science to have a system that only operates above certain temps. Just a thought...
Re: Can remove key, van still runs for 60 seconds
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:34 am
by nxski
Or it could be as simple as a loose connection that connected.

Re: Can remove key, van still runs for 60 seconds
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:43 pm
by yojimbo
I believe they are called turbo timers as they are there to allow the turbo to spin down before the oil feed to the bearing is shut off, thats not temperature dependant. As above, its dodgy wiring.
Re: Can remove key, van still runs for 60 seconds
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:44 pm
by mapleridge818
There are lots of different types of turbo timers. The more expensive and sophisticated ones base the cool down run time on engine temp, what rpm the engine was at for the last few minute before shutting it of, and a lot are hooked up to the speedometer. If you just got off the freeway, doing 110kph, and shut it off, the timer might let it cool down for longer than if you were just going 30kph etc. A lot of turbo timers are programmable to do pretty much anything you want.
It is very possible the turbo timer only works on hot days, when your engine temp is higher than the rest of the year.