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Good Deal?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:31 am
by eastywesty
http://alberta.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicle ... Z418683313

I have been watching this Delica for a little while now and was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on it. Has anyone ever heard of Active World 4x4 before? Who are they and what do they do? It seems a bit more expensive than a lot of L300s around but I am hoping that means more value ha.

Thanks :M

Re: Good Deal?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:40 am
by Yokohama
I live in the USA, but have monitored this site enough to know that the price sounds a high.

I see that it is an automatic, so that could be good for towing or in city traffic use.

I have a 1990 USA version P04W L300 with the standard automatic (USA never had manual), and the automatic seems robust, but it is only 2WD (the 2WD L300 and Montaro share the same auto trans).

If it were me, I would skip it and keep looking.

Re: Good Deal?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:56 am
by eastywesty
Yokohama wrote:I live in the USA, but have monitored this site enough to know that the price sounds a high.

I see that it is an automatic, so that could be good for towing or in city traffic use.

I have a 1990 USA version P04W L300 with the standard automatic (USA never had manual), and the automatic seems robust, but it is only 2WD (the 2WD L300 and Montaro share the same auto trans).

If it were me, I would skip it and keep looking.
Yeah but it is a '97 and from what I am seeing low km L300s in good shape are getting scarce, I am also in Alberta and this one is already here and has all the proper papers and inspections so that's a plus.

Re: Good Deal?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:02 am
by CREGAN
Look on Delica Trader (next to your inbox on the tool bar at the top). Usually people are sellers from the forum which can mean they took good care of their ride and may be slightly more trustworthy. Don't be shy about doing a road trip to BC to pick one up. Gives you the long drive home to become aquainted with your new money pit. Are you looking for a L300 or L400? I too like the look and style of an L300 (being a Vanagon lover) but I LOVE my L400 for all the other benefits. More suited to life here... where the speed limit goes over 65km/h and it gets f-ing cold.

http://www.delica.ca/trader/index.php?l300_starwagon
http://www.delica.ca/trader/index.php?l400_spacegear

Craig

Re: Good Deal?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:07 pm
by FalcoColumbarius
Regarding the Starwagon.

I have a '92 P25W and got a reasonable deal with her at a little under 10k. Personally I like the '92. In '93 they started coming without the hand throttle. It appears that the newer they come the more automated they are, also more complex, like the water cooled turbo, there's pluses and minuses in the updates. Check out the different years to see the difference. Also check whether the wagon has been modified, if so ~ check how well it's been done. Recently came across a nasty wiring job on the stereo that caused shorts in the body electric.

Regarding the Starwagon (L300) ~ they come in two basic body types: P35W & P25W. The P35W has a higher roof, about five inches. The P25W is a lower roof, or "Aero Roof", very good for getting under tree limbs and into underground car parks. Also the interior ~ there are four types of interiors that came with these machines: A, B, C & D cabin configurations. The ones we typically see coming to Canada are the A Config. (swivelling captain's chairs) and the B Config. (bench type with reversible back rest). Before August, '92 the tailgates didn't have the crimpings under the rear windscreen. This feature was introduced due to rust occurring in that area. The crimp allows air, ergo an exit for any condensation.

Then there's the Winter Package vs. the Standard Package. Winter Package varies from Selective Winter Package to the Full Monty Winter Package. The Chamonix model is a Full Monty Winter Package which includes: Duel battery (parallel); bigger alternator; more resilient upholstery and carpet (not as comfy as the velour seats of an Exceed but more resilient if your getting into the toolies); more clear coats on the paint job. Just some things to consider.

Ultimately, decide on the one you want and look for her. She will find you. Get specific in your dreams... smiles.

Falco.

P.S.: If you happen to be out in Vancouver on Friday the 19th of April (next week) then there is a mini-meet, usually a buffet of Delicas. There are also Delica Meets in Alberta from time to time. Watch the Events pages. FC.

Re: Good Deal?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:20 pm
by Big-Bird
eastywesty wrote:http://alberta.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicle ... Z418683313

I have been watching this Delica for a little while now and was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on it. Has anyone ever heard of Active World 4x4 before? Who are they and what do they do? It seems a bit more expensive than a lot of L300s around but I am hoping that means more value ha.

Thanks :M

You should be asking the lister for interior photos. This fellow didn't put a single shot of what this BEAST looks like inside. Would make me wary.

Re: Good Deal?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:05 pm
by eastywesty
FalcoColumbarius wrote:Regarding the Starwagon.

I have a '92 P25W and got a reasonable deal with her at a little under 10k. Personally I like the '92. In '93 they started coming without the hand throttle. It appears that the newer they come the more automated they are, also more complex, like the water cooled turbo, there's pluses and minuses in the updates. Check out the different years to see the difference. Also check whether the wagon has been modified, if so ~ check how well it's been done. Recently came across a nasty wiring job on the stereo that caused shorts in the body electric.

Regarding the Starwagon (L300) ~ they come in two basic body types: P35W & P25W. The P35W has a higher roof, about five inches. The P25W is a lower roof, or "Aero Roof", very good for getting under tree limbs and into underground car parks. Also the interior ~ there are four types of interiors that came with these machines: A, B, C & D cabin configurations. The ones we typically see coming to Canada are the A Config. (swivelling captain's chairs) and the B Config. (bench type with reversible back rest). Before August, '92 the tailgates didn't have the crimpings under the rear windscreen. This feature was introduced due to rust occurring in that area. The crimp allows air, ergo an exit for any condensation.

Then there's the Winter Package vs. the Standard Package. Winter Package varies from Selective Winter Package to the Full Monty Winter Package. The Chamonix model is a Full Monty Winter Package which includes: Duel battery (parallel); bigger alternator; more resilient upholstery and carpet (not as comfy as the velour seats of an Exceed but more resilient if your getting into the toolies); more clear coats on the paint job. Just some things to consider.

Ultimately, decide on the one you want and look for her. She will find you. Get specific in your dreams... smiles.

Falco.

P.S.: If you happen to be out in Vancouver on Friday the 19th of April (next week) then there is a mini-meet, usually a buffet of Delicas. There are also Delica Meets in Alberta from time to time. Watch the Events pages. FC.
I guess that means I am interested in a post August 92 Chamonix L300. Thanks!
Big-Bird wrote:
eastywesty wrote:http://alberta.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicle ... Z418683313

I have been watching this Delica for a little while now and was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on it. Has anyone ever heard of Active World 4x4 before? Who are they and what do they do? It seems a bit more expensive than a lot of L300s around but I am hoping that means more value ha.

Thanks :M

You should be asking the lister for interior photos. This fellow didn't put a single shot of what this BEAST looks like inside. Would make me wary.
Fair enough. I send them an email and see if I can get some. Your are in Calgary? Have you ever heard of Active World 4x4 before? Seems like an importer, I can't seem to find a website.

-jarrett

Re: Good Deal?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:07 pm
by eastywesty
CREGAN wrote:Look on Delica Trader (next to your inbox on the tool bar at the top). Usually people are sellers from the forum which can mean they took good care of their ride and may be slightly more trustworthy. Don't be shy about doing a road trip to BC to pick one up. Gives you the long drive home to become aquainted with your new money pit. Are you looking for a L300 or L400? I too like the look and style of an L300 (being a Vanagon lover) but I LOVE my L400 for all the other benefits. More suited to life here... where the speed limit goes over 65km/h and it gets f-ing cold.

http://www.delica.ca/trader/index.php?l300_starwagon
http://www.delica.ca/trader/index.php?l400_spacegear

Craig
I do love the square flat nosed vans.

-jarrett

Good Deal?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:00 pm
by Firesong
I have a mechanically solid l300 in Saskatoon. It's a std tranny.
James

Re: Good Deal?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:36 pm
by bionic
The ad makes no mention of any of the very important maintenance items like :
Timing Belts
Water Pump
Glow Plug System
Recharged/tested A/C
Ball Joints
Shocks
Front brake calipers
DOT approved headlights

thats just the short list....

Re: Good Deal?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:50 pm
by nvanadm
You can get a freshly imported, fully serviced and inspected L300 that is exactly what you want for less than that price. My '93 was a new import with a full service and was $10,500.... and that was 5 years ago!
No matter what you decide, make sure it's been fully serviced. I have had zero issues in 5 years. Not a single extra dime of money has been put into my L300 except regular maintenance.

Re: Good Deal?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:54 pm
by TardisDeli
First there was the Chamonix Model ,Then came The Jasper. Then in 1997 they calleld it the "Active World''. Tardis Deli 2 is one it came with a funky shoopy sticker job on the side and all the features of the previous models. Cheers Jay and Christine Tardis Deli.

Re: Good Deal?

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:40 pm
by FalcoColumbarius
bionic wrote:The ad makes no mention of any of the very important maintenance items like :
Timing Belts
Water Pump
Glow Plug System
Recharged/tested A/C
Ball Joints
Shocks
Front brake calipers
DOT approved headlights

thats just the short list....
Bionic rises a good point. Even though these machines are solid in construction, rubber has a finite lifespan and things do rattle loose over time. You shouldn't treat these wagons like brand new off the showroom floor, arm yourself with a check list like Bionic has mentioned. Another check list can be found on the Delica Wiki page, called the "To Do list on newly acquired Delica" , which can be found in Delica Canada Technical. It's an extensive list posted by DeliCat that will give you an idea of what to look for in your new baby.

Regarding acquisition, when I was looking for my wagon I had the option (as you do) of purchasing one here or importing my own. If I imported my own then I could have got it for $5,000.00, more or less after all the expenses. The problem with that scenario is I know nothing of importing, nor do I have a reliable connexion in the Japanese auto industry, besides, I like to kick tyres. $10,000 is a reasonable price for a newly imported Starwagon that's been fully serviced, as NVanAdam has pointed out. When I first saw my Chamonix the seller wanted $10,400 for her. I took her to a reputable garage, spent a hundred bucks and had her checked over. Turned out that the seals hadn't been changed when the new timing belt went in and there was oil dripping onto the T-belt, not good. To replace the timing belt assembly would run $800 at that time and I negotiated accordingly and purchased my wagon for $9,600.00. Whatever you wind up acquiring, get her checked out by a mechanic that you trust, it's worth the hundred bucks.

Falco.

Re: Good Deal?

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:07 pm
by eastywesty
Yeah I am thinking of sending that guy another email. I already sent him one and he sent me a bunch more pics. I can ask him a big long list of questions. I have also been scoping out JDM Connection out of Edmonton. Does anyone know what price approximately it is on the top of your van when importing. Say I bought it from an auction in Japan using an importers service for $4000 how much more am I going to spend (give or take) before I am driving it around having it fully serviced?

-jarrett

Re: Good Deal?

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:15 pm
by CREGAN
JDM Connection is William. Great guy that just got himself a sweet L400. Send him a Pm on here if you have questions.

Craig