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Air care for diesels?

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:43 pm
by doodah
Recent report suggests closer scrutiny of diesel vehicle emissions in BC

Re: Air care for diesels?

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:09 pm
by glenn
I understood it to be big diesels that are under extra scrutiny - commercial vehicles.

Re: Air care for diesels?

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:34 pm
by FalcoColumbarius
I heard this on the CBC, suggesting a replacement vehicle for anything 2007 and older. I think they were meaning "commercial", 'though I don't recall that word being used, perhaps I was in the other room when they used it.

Falco.

Re: Air care for diesels?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:08 am
by Jolly Roger
Had my aircare done a couple of weeks ago. Didn't seem to be any additional scrutiny. The guy doing the inspection just seemed really interested in the Delica itself as he's looking for something similar as a camper.

Re: Air care for diesels?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:39 pm
by konadog
They were talking about big trucks.

Re: Air care for diesels?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:20 am
by pajerry
I read that as a tax grab and a step to eventual fleet renewal legislation.

So what is the point of buying an engine that can put on half a million km's for more money, paying more for fuel/taxes/maintenance, and then having to replace it after 10 years? This will hurt industry, and in turn hurt our pocketbooks.


I think we should be looking at the freighters in the harbour everyday idling their ships. I remember reading a report that states that they are the cause of a huge amount of pollution all the way up the valley due to the bunker oil they burn instead of cleaner diesel. Due to lax environmental regulations I doubt that this will change any time soon, but is a much bigger problem than many think.

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I am curious to what features the newer diesels have that make them so much cleaner? EGR valves? IDI?

Re: Air care for diesels?

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 5:52 pm
by sub-arctic
pajerry wrote:I read that as a tax grab and a step to eventual fleet renewal legislation.

So what is the point of buying an engine that can put on half a million km's for more money, paying more for fuel/taxes/maintenance, and then having to replace it after 10 years? This will hurt industry, and in turn hurt our pocketbooks.


I think we should be looking at the freighters in the harbour everyday idling their ships. I remember reading a report that states that they are the cause of a huge amount of pollution all the way up the valley due to the bunker oil they burn instead of cleaner diesel. Due to lax environmental regulations I doubt that this will change any time soon, but is a much bigger problem than many think.

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I am curious to what features the newer diesels have that make them so much cleaner? EGR valves? IDI?

New diesels have catalytic converters, common rail injection, sensors everywhere, and most recently diesel exhaust fluid. There has been a lot of advancement as far as environmental controls go, however that all usually works against the fuel economy of a vehicle. It seems like a double standard, it will fart roses but your burning more fuel to go the same distance.

As far as ships go, I don't believe it is possible to have an engine of the size they use, and burn diesel in it, It would be super inefficient, and I don't even think they would run properly. Keep in mind ships chug along at less than 500rpm at full blast. Its all about the torque.

I have even heard of ships running on a mix of coal dust and water, Those engines are a whole other world of technology. Pretty cool stuff!

Re: Air care for diesels?

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 7:55 am
by Golf Cart
pajerry wrote:I read that as a tax grab and a step to eventual fleet renewal legislation.

So what is the point of buying an engine that can put on half a million km's for more money, paying more for fuel/taxes/maintenance, and then having to replace it after 10 years? This will hurt industry, and in turn hurt our pocketbooks.


I think we should be looking at the freighters in the harbour everyday idling their ships. I remember reading a report that states that they are the cause of a huge amount of pollution all the way up the valley due to the bunker oil they burn instead of cleaner diesel. Due to lax environmental regulations I doubt that this will change any time soon, but is a much bigger problem than many think.

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I am curious to what features the newer diesels have that make them so much cleaner? EGR valves? IDI?

Ships sitting in the harbor don't run on bunker fuel. They are on generators running low sulphur diesel when the main engines are off line.