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Bull Bars

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:44 pm
by RadarGrrl
The L300 and the 1st series L400 have the nice prominent bull bars up at the front end, nicely useful for brush, deer, small children, skateboarders etc. But my 2nd series L400 only has what looks like an outline of one embedded right in the bumper. Is this, in fact, an embedded bull bar, and if so, how skookum is it compared with the L300/L400-I?

Bull Bars

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:55 pm
by Firesong
It's only for looks. No practical application. I'm looking to put something on mine.

Re: Bull Bars

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:15 pm
by RadarGrrl
Firesong wrote:It's only for looks. No practical application. I'm looking to put something on mine.
Durn. So what options are there for a little extra deer protection up front?

Bull Bars

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:06 am
by Firesong
Horny avoidance. So far..

Re: Bull Bars

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:04 am
by RadarGrrl
Firesong wrote:Horny avoidance. So far..
Makes sense...

Re: Bull Bars

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:04 am
by Mr. Flibble
I think that they were removed from the Series 2 because the Series 1 was good at channeling pedestrians under the chassis.

Re: Bull Bars

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:20 am
by glenn
It's true, it is the result of a change in Japanese regulations which no longer allowed any kind of bull bars on production vehicles in 1998. You will notice no bullbars on any Japanese vehicles after this - even the L300's got the no bullbar bullbars. It was all in the interest of pedestrian safety.

Re: Bull Bars

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:46 pm
by Firesong
I heard it was to reduce the cost of insurance claims.
Collapsible bumpers versus getting hit by the bar.
Either way it was changed.

FS

Re: Bull Bars

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:45 pm
by macro
Firesong wrote:Horny avoidance. So far..
I'm sure there's a great joke here somewhere...

Re: Bull Bars

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:33 pm
by FalcoColumbarius
I can see it: Two tonne vehicle with bambie bars doing fifty kliks smokes a person stepping out from the kerb gazing at their I-phone could do a lot of damage, whereas a two tonne vehicle without bambie bars doing fifty kliks hitting said zombie and they should be okay. Kinda reminds me of the logic behind the dreaded EGR valve.

Falco.

Bull Bars

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:44 pm
by Firesong
I heard it was more like grazing a car at 5km with Bambi bars does more damage than without. Hit a person regardless of bars hurts people

Re: Bull Bars

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:57 pm
by FalcoColumbarius
Firesong wrote:I heard it was more like grazing a car at 5km with Bambi bars does more damage than without. Hit a person regardless of bars hurts people
What about zombies?

Re: Bull Bars

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:41 pm
by thelazygreenfox
Mine are removed and IMHO it looks better. The tubing is such thin wall that hitting anything would push the bars back intio the body anyways.
TLGF

Bull Bars

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:50 am
by Firesong
My 1990 l300 took a deer right down the middle. Slight bend to the bar and a dint in the skid plate underneath. Lucky

And yes. Zombie bars are a good thing ;)
It always seem to be the tires getting hung up on collected zombie bodies lol

I look at a push bar not as an absolute. But a means to hit a deer, be damaged but able to proceed home or somewhere so I'm not broken down on the side of the road with a busted up rad or something. Won't always work out but a better chance.

Re: Bull Bars

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:46 pm
by Morganizer
I read somewhere that the L300 was designed without bull bars, and they didn't think it looked quite right. So they dressed it up with bull bars, purely for aesthetics.