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L400 Trans
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:28 am
by stever1000
I read in the L300 section that the filter and gasket is the same as the same year Montero
I want to confirm: is the L400 trans gasket and filter the same as the same year Montero?
I read the total capacity of the transmission is 8.5L
How much fluid comes out when I drop the pan and filter vs. just the drain plug?
Thanks!
Re: L400 Trans
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:07 pm
by Mr. Flibble
You want the transmission gasket and filter for the 3.5 litre V6 montero - that is compatible with the l400.
I have not done it yet, but apparently dropping the pan gets more oil out. A great deal remains in the transmission however.
For my part, I will be installing an oil filter style bypass for the transmission. This allows for better filtration and more oil volume.
Re: L400 Trans
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:41 pm
by Feds
Right about 5l comes out when draining the pan, so 3.5l stays in the trans/cooler
Re: L400 Trans
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:09 pm
by stever1000
Mr. Flibble wrote:You want the transmission gasket and filter for the 3.5 litre V6 montero - that is compatible with the l400.
I have not done it yet, but apparently dropping the pan gets more oil out. A great deal remains in the transmission however.
For my part, I will be installing an oil filter style bypass for the transmission. This allows for better filtration and more oil volume.
Excellent, thank you!
Do you have a link for the filter you're referring to? Or is it a custom job?
Feds wrote:Right about 5l comes out when draining the pan, so 3.5l stays in the trans/cooler
Ok, is there an easy way to get the rest out? I have the wrong fluid in from the previous owner and I want to get as much out as I can
Re: L400 Trans
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:37 pm
by Big-Bird
I have never had the tranny filter out of my Delica so I am not sure if the filter is just metal mesh or a paper.
If its metal mesh then changing the filter won't do much. And the torque converter holds lots of fluid too and the only way to get it completely changed is to do a powered flush.
My Xterra had this every 4 years. Never a tranny problem in over 12 years of ownership.
Re: L400 Trans
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:44 pm
by thelazygreenfox
BB
You're correct lots of fluid remains in the torque convertor. To add to your "Power Flush idea ."
To power flush all the old fluid:
Buy 8.5 litres of new fluid and a narrow funnel to refill the transmission. Run the engine till the transmission is very warm. Note the fluid level on the dipstick. Remove the drain plug and drain the fluid from the pan. Replace the plug and overfill the pan.
Break the "hot" stainless tubing to the trans cooler to a drain pan and start the engine.
Monitor the dipstick level and overfill the pan as the level drops. Shut off the engine each time.
Pump out the trans fluid till the colour changes to that of the new fluid and quickly rejoin the tubing. Top up or drain the pan to the previously noted dipstick level and recheck after running the vehicle.
Dispose of the old Diamond Queen 3 fluid and check for leaks. Canadian Tire sells it and accepts old oil.
I've done this on all my vehicles and it's the same way the shops do it. If you're not comfortable with this take it to a transmission shop.
TLWF
Re: L400 Trans
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:43 pm
by stever1000
thelazygreenfox wrote:BB
You're correct lots of fluid remains in the torque convertor. To add to your "Power Flush idea ."
To power flush all the old fluid:
Buy 8.5 litres of new fluid and a narrow funnel to refill the transmission. Run the engine till the transmission is very warm. Note the fluid level on the dipstick.
Why does the original level matter? Can't I just refill to the specific range on the dip stick?
Break the "hot" stainless tubing to the trans cooler to a drain pan and start the engine.
Monitor the dipstick level and overfill the pan as the level drops. Shut off the engine each time.
Pump out the trans fluid till the colour changes to that of the new fluid and quickly rejoin the tubing. Top up or drain the pan to the previously noted dipstick level and recheck after running the vehicle.
How fast does the fluid level drop? Can I easily monitor the fluid level going down on the dipstick then turn off the engine, or is it a two person job?
Thanks!!
Re: L400 Trans
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:00 pm
by thelazygreenfox
Why does the original level matter? Can't I just refill to the specific range on the dip stick?
Fluid level changes so much from hot to cold operation that IMHO i'd fill to what was there before.
How fast does the fluid level drop? Can I easily monitor the fluid level going down on the dipstick then turn off the engine, or is it a two person job?
Turn the engine off if it happens too quickly for you. If the key is off everything stops.
TLWF
Re: L400 Trans
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:15 pm
by stever1000
Thanks for the clarification, I just wanted to see if I needed to find a helper or not.
Sounds like a job done alone
