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Should I stay or should I go??? Pls advice
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:04 pm
by piyeguyo
Hi
I'm getting ready for a 1 month trip (USA + Mexico) and I took my Deli to the mechanic today and they're telling me I need to change the right rear brake cylinder because it has a leak. (Brake fluid is leaking). I am supposed to leave Saturday but I'm not sure if I can leave with this problem or I should stay and get this thing fixed. I leave in Calgary so getting the part is going to take a few days (It depends how fast Rocky Mtn Imports can send the part to Pro-Active here in Calgary)
Another idea I have is to order the part and then ask a mechanic somewhere in USA to do this for me...
Any thoughts???
Thx,
Fabio

Re: Should I stay or should I go??? Pls advice
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:22 pm
by The Pinkfingers
If it can make it one day's drive, phone CVI or another shop here in advance and make your first stop Vancouver. Lots of parts here and you won't have to wait. Might be quicker than waiting in Calgary.
But I think brake parts are pretty common and you could likely find one at an autopart store - check the parts numbers list in the wiki.
But, for me, I would not undertake a major trip with a leaking brake cylinder.

Re: Should I stay or should I go??? Pls advice
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:15 pm
by jessef
As a last resort, you can try out a few different Mitsubishi Montero 1988 cylinder part #'s.
I've heard they don't fit but there are three different 88 montero rear cylinder's.
Who knows. Alternative ?
Re: Should I stay or should I go??? Pls advice
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:57 pm
by ccautos
The cylinders are unique to the Delica and I cannot find any direct replacement . I use a Japanese imported part that sells at around $60 each and keep at least ten sets in stock . Brake shoes are available here but reuire an additional hole drilling in them to fit but the cylinders remain unavailable . Thanks , Glen
Re: Should I stay or should I go??? Pls advice
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:09 pm
by BCDelica
jfarsang wrote:As a last resort, you can try out a few different Mitsubishi Montero 1988 cylinder part #'s.
I've heard they don't fit but there are three different 88 montero rear cylinder's.
Who knows. Alternative ?
ccautos wrote:The cylinders are unique to the Delica and I cannot find any direct replacement . I use a Japanese imported part that sells at around $60 each and keep at least ten sets in stock . Brake shoes are available here but reuire an additional hole drilling in them to fit but the cylinders remain unavailable . Thanks , Glen
Hope I'm safe doing so, but I've been driving with rear brake cylinders off the shelf in little o'l Powell River for two years now. My mechanic sourced them as very close fit to existing cylinders. He said he did have to do slight machining, but I've no idea what they were from. Was a half day job for brakes and bearings.
This doesn't help you much though. Detour through Vancouver or Coombs?
Re: Should I stay or should I go??? Pls advice
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:15 am
by 39Ronin
Order the Mitsubishi Vanwagon wheel cylinders from 1990 and they will fit directly, no mods ect... I paid $25 per side. I was always confused why people imported that part from Japan when they were available right here. Unless my terminology is incorrect, but wheel cylinders = brake cylinders ?
Re: Should I stay or should I go??? Pls advice
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:41 am
by MardyDelica
Hi, fabio,
i miss your trend,as 39 ronnin says,
just get the one for 1988 or 1990 Mitsubishi Van or wagon rear brake cylinder. they are the same. try to get it in your local parts store, for sure they can get it for you.
its a direct fit & you wont have any problem to fit this to your delica.
Cheers;
Mardy
Re: Should I stay or should I go??? Pls advice
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:10 am
by ccautos
Are you using Raybestos wheel cylinders ?? I had the Raybestos rep. at the shop who stated that the cylinders are different in external length and we had a problem with one van where the cylinders had been fitted with new shoes and the brakes were bound on . We had to remove the shoes and grind a small amount away from the cylinder face on the shoe to make them work without grabbing whilst driving . I have got the Beck-Arnley ones on order but have not yet recieved them to find out whether they are the same as the Raybestos . The Raybestos cylinders would work fine with older shoes that are worn but give problems only when replaceing shoes and cylinders together .
Re: Should I stay or should I go??? Pls advice
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:12 am
by jessef
39Ronin wrote:Order the Mitsubishi Vanwagon wheel cylinders from 1990 and they will fit directly, no mods ect... I paid $25 per side. I was always confused why people imported that part from Japan when they were available right here. Unless my terminology is incorrect, but wheel cylinders = brake cylinders ?
You're right. I just got back from Wakefield. Same cylinder.
1990 Mitsubishi Van
Re: Should I stay or should I go??? Pls advice
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:15 am
by piyeguyo
I wasn't able to find any cylinders locally, but they will be here in Calgary Monday and Pro-Active will install them on Wednesday. Got both of them even though only the right one was leaking.
It seems to be a common problem for the Delicas, but I guess it's just the age of the vehicles... I wonder if this one should also be added to the list of things to do when buying one.
Had to cut the trip a few days short, so I'm thinking we might not be able to reach Mexico. Too bad.
Thx...
Fabio

Re: Should I stay or should I go??? Pls advice
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:21 am
by 39Ronin
ccautos wrote:Are you using Raybestos wheel cylinders ?? I had the Raybestos rep. at the shop who stated that the cylinders are different in external length and we had a problem with one van where the cylinders had been fitted with new shoes and the brakes were bound on . We had to remove the shoes and grind a small amount away from the cylinder face on the shoe to make them work without grabbing whilst driving . I have got the Beck-Arnley ones on order but have not yet recieved them to find out whether they are the same as the Raybestos . The Raybestos cylinders would work fine with older shoes that are worn but give problems only when replaceing shoes and cylinders together .
I used the Beck-Arnley ones and they were 100% the same. No differences what so ever, unless internally which I can't comment on.
Re: Should I stay or should I go??? Pls advice
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:32 am
by ccautos
The problem in the Raybestos was the length of the pistons . Maybe Beck-Arnley have correct ?? I should see an order of them next week and can strip one out to confirm . Will post the findings once checked .
Re: Should I stay or should I go??? Pls advice
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:47 am
by jessef
ccautos wrote:The problem in the Raybestos was the length of the pistons . Maybe Beck-Arnley have correct ?? I should see an order of them next week and can strip one out to confirm . Will post the findings once checked .
Thanks Glen.
It will be good news for compatibility and options.
Re: Should I stay or should I go??? Pls advice
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:58 pm
by ccautos
So I recieved the Beck Arnley cylinders today and measured the pison face to piston face length . The stock Mitsubishi cylinders are 1.23mm shorter which is slightly better than the Raybestos ones we tried a few months back at 3.45mm longer . These should work as a direct replacement and are a lot cheaper than the Japanese replacements but I will try them on the next van requiring cylinders and shoes together and post the results . The Raybestos cylinders only bound the brakes up when replacing shoes and cylinders together they do not cause a problem when using worn shoes or drums . For now everything looks very promising for cheap replacements !!
Re: Should I stay or should I go??? Pls advice
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:55 pm
by MardyDelica
Hi, its just berk arnley got the design origianated towards the asian market.
thats why berk arnley is much better fit than raybestor.
as reybestor got most of the spec in north american spec.
cheers;