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did the import rules change???
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:53 pm
by Jester
here's a 2002 skyline for sale at Van Lamborgini:
http://www.weissach.com/auto-details.asp?autoID=847
I wonder how the owner managed that feat, and if there is a possible loophole to be explored here.
any thoughts?
p.s. asking price $179,000...ouch!
Re: did the import rules change???
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:26 pm
by marsgal42
Officially, this is a home-made car built from Skyline parts. There was discussion on the IVOAC web site.
Note the bespoke headlights.
You have to want one awfully badly to go to this much trouble.
...laura
Re: did the import rules change???
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:54 pm
by Green1
no, the rules haven't changed, the fellow has tried to exploit a loophole where you take the car apart and build it again in Canada as a "home-built"
2 problems, this is extremely expensive and take a LOT of effort, and secondly, it's still illegal.
on the "bright" side for this person, transport Canada doesn't seem to enforce this rule, but it still isn't legal (kit cars must also be over 15 years old)
Re: did the import rules change???
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:41 am
by Golf Cart
That rear wing kinda makes it look like a really big shopping cart

Re: did the import rules change???
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:25 am
by dah_hunter
With the Right ammount of money anything legal..
This car was brought in via Abbotsford Nissan.. Through various loopholes..
Re: did the import rules change???
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:32 am
by Green1
With the Right ammount of money anything legal..
no, the money doesn't make it legal, just helps prevent you getting in trouble for it.
This car was brought in via Abbotsford Nissan.. Through various loopholes..
problem is, the loophole doesn't actually exist. the car is illegal. Show me a law or precedent that allows this... Better yet though, just read my postings on IVOAC on this subject, it'll save me re-typing the same facts...
Re: did the import rules change???
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:13 am
by sasquatch-hunter
I think that the new GTR is way cheaper. If you still want to drive a R34, just buy a PS3 with GT5. You can drive a Mine's R34 with 800bhp all day long.
Re: did the import rules change???
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:18 am
by dah_hunter
by legal i ment "Legal"
(Air Quotes FTW)
no need to explain the legality i have read all your posts..
I jsut like to be nice and call it a loophole..
LoL
Re: did the import rules change???
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:53 am
by Green1
The problem here is that people so badly want to believe in a way around this ridiculous law that they start truly believing loopholes exist when none do, this opens the door to people spending lots of money that they can't afford, just to be the case that actually gets shut down.
The reason we see vehicles like this manage to evade the law is that there was nothing illegal about importing any of the parts of the vehicle, only once someone decides to use it as a kit does it become illegal, Transport Canada isn't in the habit of enforcing this rule after the border, so some of these slip through, others unfortunately face criminal charges... and I'd hate for someone on one of our forums to land themselves in that second category simply because they got bad advice online.
Re: did the import rules change???
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:54 am
by Chewy
The precedent is that "legality" only spans as far as enforcement.
My MLA does insider trading by buying stocks in a contracting company, then gives them a huge contract a week later. Who's going to enforce that.
Since the car IS here, and IS registered...I'd say that we may as well use it as proof positive that the 15 year rule is nothing but protecting the giants and the precious CAW votes which now likely have little to no weight since their pensions were cut.
The blind following of a document leads to the initial problem. That problem being that the original "spirit" of the law being lost. The spirit in this case being safety.
Re: did the import rules change???
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:22 am
by Green1
the spirit of this law is protectionism, the excuse is safety.
The problem with assuming that "it's here and registered, therefore we're ok" is that Transport Canada can at any time seize and crush that vehicle if they suddenly decide to enforce the rule, in addition they can lay criminal charges against the owner, the seller, the shop that put it together, and the people who brought in the parts.
Will they? I doubt it, but I wouldn't spend my money on that risk.
Re: did the import rules change???
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:33 am
by maxpowers
seems like a quick way to lose 165000 dollas over 7 years.
you might as well give it away.