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Pacific Ocean Crossing

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:56 pm
by flyfishn
When a vehicle finally sets sail, how long does it take to arrive in New West?

Thanks

Re: Pacific Ocean Crossing

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:39 pm
by mycale
depends on many factors weather being one. usually just the transit alone is about 10-14days

Re: Pacific Ocean Crossing

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:57 am
by EnviroImports.com
container is 10 days, roro is 13 days, from port to port

Re: Pacific Ocean Crossing

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:36 pm
by flyfishn
Thanks!

Re: Pacific Ocean Crossing

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:07 pm
by JMK
Bear in mind once the boat arrives, you still need to be patient.

Regarding Container method:

It takes a couple of days to unstuff the container (if it came that way). At least it does at Kings on Annacis, not sure about New West.

Also at Kings, if a delay in clearing the vehicle makes it take more than a set amount of time, a daily storage fee kicks in, this has the potential to raise your costs.

Your broker has to get all the paperwork processed, usually a couple of days.

If Canada Customs orders a soil inspection, that will delay it further.

If your vehicle does not start (E.G. needs a boost), or the wheels have been removed to pack, hang, or crib it, or there is a soil inspection, or there is a flat tire. or the emergency brake is stuck 'On', do not be upset if you get a bill to rectify those unanticipated 'value added' services, (and commonly, the people performing them probably would not be able to get jobs with your local roadside assistance agency).

Vehicles that come container have less chance of getting accessories pilfered. For example, the winch cables from Toyota Land Cruiser HDJ81's with the recessed winch rarely arrive with the vehicle because they can be sold on eBay for hundred's of dollars. Fortunately there are not a lot of loose extras in a Delica worth pinching.

Re: Pacific Ocean Crossing

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:08 pm
by EnviroImports.com
I have to say a couple things about that last one, Every vehicle coming in has to have a soil inspection application, and that in normally inspected at the ship yard befor its released takes under an hour as CBSA will go and do them all at once or just release them with out inspection,, ive never heard of a delay for soil inspection unless its coming in from the UK somewhere and its not power washed underneith like they do in Japan before loading, if your container comes in on a thursday or a friday, you should have your vehicle no later than the following wed, At the latest , maybe thursday if you cant get there during the day, there is only a couple places now that will De-stuff vehicle containers any more and it takes about an hour once its delivered to the warehouse,. its really just a matter of opening the doors, un chaining it and some tiny person goes in the rear gate or side window to make sure the ignition is on and steering is un locked, they usually just pull it out with a fork lift. my last 2 were destuffed faster than i could walk across the parking lot for a timmys and walk back.

It really is the easiest thing out there to clear your own vehicle, takes about 30 min down at customs, they fax off your release and before you can get to the warehouse, your vehicle should be outside waiting for you.
If you are coming in Container , you will have to get a receiving agent, Call Frank Mao at General buisness. he is partners with most of the de-stuffing warehouses and will make everything happen in a couple days ,

Delicas dont get stacked , your wheels will never be taken off , and stacking cars like sports cars doesent happen any more, as wcb banned it from the cross bars falling out to many times, if your van is behind 2 cars stacked, then you could be in for a couple hour wait, but its VERY rare that it will happen as last year a guy bringing in 4 cars in one crate all stacked was refused de-stuffing and ended up paying THOUSANDS in storage fees because the container could not be unloaded,,,,,(legally)
and ramping doesent happen either with delicas, there is to much liability for the shipper to put your delica in the box with 3 ramped Kei trucks, if you have 7 Kei trucks coming in, you can do it, but they wont do that with mixed containers.
if you live in bc or are going to pick up your vehicle your self, save the money and clear it your self, you will have HUNDREDS of dollars and get your vehicle alot quicker than waiting for a broker to get around to it.

Re: Pacific Ocean Crossing

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:44 pm
by JMK
It's the CFIA (not the CBSA, it's common to mix them up as so many agencies are in fact involved) that may order a soil inspection and if they do, it costs extra and can delay things. It can in fact delay things a whole bunch. Generally with containers from Japan it does not happen, but it has happened, and can happen. While I'm not saying it's probable or likely to happen, I'm saying it *could* happen and now you know:

D-95-26: Phytosanitary requirements for soil and related matter, alone or in association with plants
7.0 Inspection Procedures
7.1 Document Verification
Permit to Import, Phytosanitary Certificate, additional declarations and other documentation required must be verified by the CFIA prior to release of the shipment to the importer.

For domestic shipments with Movement Certificates, the certificates must be available to a CFIA inspector upon request on delivery of the shipment at destination.

7.2 Product Examination
All shipments are subject to inspection by an authorized CFIA inspector. Samples may be taken and submitted to an approved laboratory for determining the pest status of the shipment.

8.0 Non-compliance
Imported shipments which do not meet requirements, or are found to be infested with any quarantine pests, may be refused entry, returned to origin, treated or disposed of at the importer's expense.

Domestic shipments not in compliance with requirements may be detained, moved to a specified place, treated or disposed of at the owner's expense. See Appendix 5.

If material is found in non-compliance, but the inspector deems it can be safely and effectively cleaned in Canada, the inspector may allow cleaning at an approved facility as outlined in Appendix 5. Guidelines for containment actions required for the movement of soil contaminated material is outlined in Appendix 4.

Re: Pacific Ocean Crossing

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:28 pm
by after oil
i paid courntey agencies $260 for brokerage fees. not a small price, for sure, but i dont live near vancouver and dont like to spend much time there(unless theres some good reggae shows!) and i cant drive two vehicles so i was in vancouver w/o a vehicle. so it was worth my while to hire them to do it for me. that was for a roro...
(i might add that al @ courtney agencies was gracious enough to invite me to his home to get the form1 so i didnt have to go all the way down town when i was not far from his home. big up, al!)

the vehicle arrived on a monday. i got to van on tuesday but the form1 wasnt released until wednesday at 3:30PM, the docks close around then so i want able to pick up the vehicle until thursday...

Re: Pacific Ocean Crossing

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:45 pm
by EnviroImports.com
I usually go on harbor air from Victoria to downtown vancouver, Standby, $75 bucks if you fly after 8am, Ive never not gotten on the next flight, their shuttle drops me off at Customs office doors, walk in, clear with paperwork, they give you the form1, 30min done, Sky train or bus to richmond, $3.00, walk 2 blocks pick up your vehicle/s
Im not saying its always this fast, sometimes I stop for breaky befor going to richmond, but I like to be on the 1pm boat back to the island.
sometimes hiring a broker is just easier and peace of mind to make sure it goes well .
either way, just take your time, ask questions and it will all go well. UNLESS you bring in something early. I was clearing a load once at CBSA and the lady standing next to me was being told her 2 corvettes were being seized. let me tell you what a crying screaming mess that was . sure was glad to get out of there lol.
I think in the end she was given the option to ship them back to Japan.
sigh........

Re: Pacific Ocean Crossing

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:06 pm
by after oil
EnviroImports.com wrote:I usually go on harbor air from Victoria to downtown vancouver, Standby, $75 bucks if you fly after 8am, Ive never not gotten on the next flight, their shuttle drops me off at Customs office doors, walk in, clear with paperwork, they give you the form1, 30min done, Sky train or bus to richmond, $3.00, walk 2 blocks pick up your vehicle/s
Im not saying its always this fast, sometimes I stop for breaky befor going to richmond, but I like to be on the 1pm boat back to the island.
sometimes hiring a broker is just easier and peace of mind to make sure it goes well .
either way, just take your time, ask questions and it will all go well. UNLESS you bring in something early. I was clearing a load once at CBSA and the lady standing next to me was being told her 2 corvettes were being seized. let me tell you what a crying screaming mess that was . sure was glad to get out of there lol.
I think in the end she was given the option to ship them back to Japan.
sigh........
you make it sound so easy! you forgot the part about temp permit (or a to b) and the part about dead battery or no fuel. my experience is 4 out of 5 delicas start and run fine, but then i have only personally know of 5 that were picked up by friends or me at the dock.

flyin rfom vic aint so bad i guess, and if i lived in the LM then perhaps id save the $260

Re: Pacific Ocean Crossing

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:06 pm
by EnviroImports.com
well you should have your A-B permit before you go to pick up and clear customs, some ICBC places wont give it to you until you clear, the other just want a bill of sale and want the address you pick up at and delivery either way its a ten min stop , out of fuel, never going to happen to me, I buy Privately ,and my seller is actually going to be staying with me for the second year in a row to go fishing for July, I stay with him when im in Japan, its good to have a relationship like that, My seller is also my sister in laws cousin, so in a round about way we are related, if your sending this kind of money off to another country, its good to have peace of mind No auctions for this guy, I always have enough fuel in the vehicle to drive the 3 -4 blocks to Superstore for a top up. Dead batteries, again, dont buy from auctions lol, or travel with a booster pack, cheap insurance for $50 at Can tire or costco.
I normally take a mini import pack in a backpack , Razor in a holder, windex, mini Metric socket set,Tape, stuff like that..... Oh and LOTS of cash for destuffing , ferries, fuel,

Oh and one of the new De-stuffing warhouses is about 4 blocks from Ikea in richmond, GREAT service, drop the wife off to get some shopping done while you get your ride, clean the windows, get fuel from down the road, then into ikea for a meatball lunch, load up your ride with the ikea goodies and off to the boat, either the 1 or the 3 depending on shopping...

Re: Pacific Ocean Crossing

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:43 am
by after oil
right on.. i have gotten an A to B w/o the form 1, but recently every place i called said i must have the form 1. and im workin on a contact in japan, but so far my auction experience has been good...