Page 1 of 3
Injection pump timing
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:20 am
by ccautos
After many hours of trying to purchase the dial gauge tool to set injector pump timing I have finally managed to get the correct tool . When replacing timing belts we have started adjusting the pump timing and it makes a big difference to the way these vans start and drive . No more rough idle , no more excessive black smoke just a nice smooth engine . Also a quick tip on vibrations and `squeaking` at idle - change the engine mounts . It is amazing how far sagged the engine mounts are on all these vans no matter whether its done 60k or 200k all the mounts are proving to be low . When the mounts callapse badly a random squeak can be heard on start up and idle whick is the upper plate of the mount rubbing on the lower plate . These mounts are not too expensive and only take just over an hour to change .
Re: Injection pump timing
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:19 am
by BCDelica
Hello Glen, can I bring my van down to have you set the injection pump timing? How long would this take and how booked up are you?
And when can you open up a satellite garage in Powell to service the three Delica's here in town? :lol:
Cheers,
Kev
Re: Injection pump timing
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:39 am
by Adam
Hi Glen, Is this something I need to get set too? I just got my van from Five Star 3 weeks ago.
Re: Injection pump timing
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:04 am
by ccautos
The pump timing is fairly easy to do and only takes about an hour and a half . The manual says to remove all injector lines to gain access but I have found that by removing the fuel filter assembly and throttle cable it can be done fairly easily . Also the top belt cover /fan and upper rad hose have to come off . Give me a call at the shop or PM me and I can set up a time .
Re: Injection pump timing
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:58 pm
by helibrian
do you have a p/n for the engine mounts?
Re: Injection pump timing
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:11 pm
by ccautos
Engine mounts are only available from Mitsubishi in Japan . I have not found anything in Canada . I have four sets here and they are back ordered in Japan right now .
Re: Injection pump timing
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:35 am
by rdub
i know the squeak sound ive got it the rough idle yes ive got that too im wondering if you know or if anyone else knows of someone in the valley or Vancover area who is cappable of doing the injection pump timming until i either find a manual and am not so worried about screwing something up and learn more about my waggon .also will be looking at my motor mounts and if they they need replaceing ,well ill let ya know. as fare as cleaner burning im still not satisfide with mine.
Re: Injection pump timing
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:44 am
by 4whl_billycart
cc.
Are ou able to post some pics as to the tool & how you did the check.
Re: Injection pump timing
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:15 am
by Breadman
just got my van back from cc yesterday and i can't believe the difference. i had noticed an increasing lack of power and glenn suggested that the pump timing was out. well it was a mile out. glenn replaced the timing belts, fan belts, kick down cable (a problem i knew i had) rad hose and oils. it runs so much better. he certainly knows these vans and engines.
thanks again glenn, top service
paul
Re: Injection pump timing
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:12 am
by tankie
Hi, new here.
I have tech manual in pdf format which addresses the inj pump timing proceedure for the 4d56 td if anyone would like it. Many other things L300 as well.
Best regards from New Zealand,
Gary
Re: Injection pump timing
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:38 am
by Schwa
Did he happen to say what the timing was and what he set it to?
I'm thinking about having mine checked and set, but the european manual says 9 deg, the japanese sticker on my van says 7 deg, and the people on the street say 4 is good for canada (since we didn't have NOx limits) so I'd like to know what the target is, or should be, before having it adjusted. No sense doing it twice.
Breadman wrote:just got my van back from cc yesterday and i can't believe the difference. i had noticed an increasing lack of power and glenn suggested that the pump timing was out. well it was a mile out. glenn replaced the timing belts, fan belts, kick down cable (a problem i knew i had) rad hose and oils. it runs so much better. he certainly knows these vans and engines.
thanks again glenn, top service
paul
Re: Injection pump timing
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:57 pm
by ccautos
The angle is just the position at which the timing is set not like a gas engine thats timing is set to an angle . All L300`s are the same pump timing europe or asia , only gas engine vary to different parts of the world . The pump timing is to be set at seven degrees with the engine off . It also takes about forty minutes to check and adjust .
Re: Injection pump timing
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:08 pm
by Schwa
Okay, so as I suspected the sticker on the van is the one to go with, the (european?) engine manual PDF says to set it at 9, dunno why it would be different. I'm assuming mine's out a bit since it shakes quite violently when first started, there's a decent amount of smoke under load and a possible lack of power...
Any suggestions for a reliable shop in the GVRD?
Re: Injection pump timing
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:10 pm
by ccautos
I don`t really know any shops on the mainland but I know a fairly good one one the Island near Parksville !!!! The problem is going to be finding a shop with the correct tool to set the pump . It cost me over $500 and took me almost six months to find . I may be coming through Vancouver in the next few weeks if you require mobile service . It is done on the ground and needs to be cold but would only take 30-40mins with minimal tools and no hoist requires .
Re: Injection pump timing
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:25 pm
by Schwa
That's a wonderful offer, I don't really know for sure that the timing is off, I'm just assuming it wasn't checked and set since that tool is pretty specific and most just leave it if it works... What would you charge for the 'mobile service' ? If you want, you can PM me the details.