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SVW/WVO Mix in L400

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:53 am
by Mr. Flibble
Is a 30% WVO 70% Diesel an appropriate mix for a L400 4M40 engine? I have quite alot of WVO now, but I do not have a WVO conversion kit installed, so I would like to start using some WVO in my engine, but I don't know what is a good ratio for the 4M40 Engine.

Re: SVW/WVO Mix in L400

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:09 pm
by jessef
That's a good mix right now.

When it gets hotter you can mix 50/50.

Last summer I ran 50/50 in July/aug.

Re: SVW/WVO Mix in L400

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:55 pm
by Adam
A block heater is always nice to have, just in case you get a little over enthusiastic with the WVO ratio. The block heater on my old L300 got me out of a few cold WVO starts.

Re: SVW/WVO Mix in L400

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:01 am
by Mr. Flibble
Adam wrote:A block heater is always nice to have, just in case you get a little over enthusiastic with the WVO ratio. The block heater on my old L300 got me out of a few cold WVO starts.
That is a very good idea! I forgot to get a block heater installed in mine.

I guess I will just carry around my DragonFly stove to heat the oil pan in an emergency until I get a block heater installed.

Re: SVW/WVO Mix in L400

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:08 am
by Luna-Sea
You are kidding about using a camping stove burner to heat your oil pan right?
Ever so carefully hombre,maybe a fire extinguisher with that too eh?
I think using the burner to heat a kettle of water that you pour onto your
gelling Injector pump would put the heat more where you need it with
no chance of Starbug going supernova....

Right On! 8-)

Re: SVW/WVO Mix in L400

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:12 am
by Mr. Flibble
Luna-Sea wrote:You are kidding about using a camping stove burner to heat your oil pan right?
Ever so carefully hombre,maybe a fire extinguisher with that too eh?
I think using the burner to heat a kettle of water that you pour onto your
gelling Injector pump would put the heat more where you need it with
no chance of Starbug going supernova....

Right On! 8-)
Actually, I know of a few people that have had to do this in the Yukon to get their vehicles started. I forget the temp, but it was below -40. The only way to get parts of it warm enough were to put a camp stove under the oil pan!

But I agree with you, in the case of WVO, it makes more sense to use a block heater or hot water poured across the block itself!

The total volume of heat put out by a camp stove is actually much less than that put out by an engine. If you think about it, the amount of fuel and oxygen going through the engine per second when compared to the stove is much greater. The greatest risk would be burning the oil, but since you would have about 7.5 litres in the wet sump, it would actually take quite a large volume of heat to be able to burn that amount of oil within the engine, and I don't think a camp stove could output that much with all the parasitic heat loss from all the solid metal in the engine as a whole.

Re: SVW/WVO Mix in L400

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:50 pm
by FalcoColumbarius
Big tarp and a tiger torch. Great winter tools.

Falco.

Re: SVW/WVO Mix in L400

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:55 pm
by mararmeisto
If you don't want to have to worry about potential gelling issues, use WEO (waste engine oil) instead. Filtered, of course, but pour it straight in just the same.

Re: SVW/WVO Mix in L400

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:56 pm
by Mr. Flibble
mararmeisto wrote:If you don't want to have to worry about potential gelling issues, use WEO (waste engine oil) instead. Filtered, of course, but pour it straight in just the same.
But where does one get WEO from? I believe most oil Depot places recycle it?

Re: SVW/WVO Mix in L400

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:35 pm
by mararmeisto
Mr. Flibble wrote:
mararmeisto wrote:If you don't want to have to worry about potential gelling issues, use WEO (waste engine oil) instead. Filtered, of course, but pour it straight in just the same.
But where does one get WEO from? I believe most oil Depot places recycle it?
There's a 17mm bolt on the bottom of the oil pan - it comes out of there after having sloshed around inside the engine for 5000 km.

Re: SVW/WVO Mix in L400

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:57 pm
by Mr. Flibble
mararmeisto wrote:
Mr. Flibble wrote:
mararmeisto wrote:If you don't want to have to worry about potential gelling issues, use WEO (waste engine oil) instead. Filtered, of course, but pour it straight in just the same.
But where does one get WEO from? I believe most oil Depot places recycle it?
There's a 17mm bolt on the bottom of the oil pan - it comes out of there after having sloshed around inside the engine for 5000 km.
LOL! That would mean I would have to change my oil very often indeed if I wanted to fill up my tank with WEO!

Re: SVW/WVO Mix in L400

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:44 pm
by jessef
Like Lunasea said, the output of the little stove will do squat compared to using that stove to heat hot water and pouring it over the IP, lines and block, which I've done in 100 mile during a winter trip. Worked out well.

It's not the engine oil you need to worry about heating. It's the injection pump, lines and block when running wvo in severe cold weather.

Use the stove for hot water.