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Intercooler Spray and Gauge Cluster
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:46 pm
by Mr. Flibble
I will be away in the US for a week or two, so I won't have the chance to finish off these 2 things until I get back, but here are a few images to get you guys thinking about some L400 mods!
(How on earth do I re size attachments in BB Code? I seem unable to do this through the IMG tag!)
The rear "bag" washer sprayer from my 4Runner. It looks like it could mount in the engine bay in lots of places, I also found it will fit directly in front of the left wheel under the headlights in a big opening, and you can still reach the bottle to fill it through the fender, so that is an option:

- 1989 Toyota 4Runner Rear Window Washer Tank and Pump
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The larger capacity water bottle. Harder to mount, and harder to find a place to mount it that I can still reach it to fill it:

- 1989 4Runner Washer Tank and pump
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One thing to remember about windscreen washer bottles like the 2 pictured above. the pumps will allow all the fluid to drain if they are placed above the exit to the sprayer! The pumps don't resist the fluid coming out via a siphon! Thus, you need to mount the spray bottles blow the height of the intercooler sprayers.
This is the Clinometer Gage cover originally from a Toyota Surf that I got off of Ebay for my 4Runner some time ago. The plastic colour is almost an exact match for my Royal Exceed dash. Obviously I don't need the Clinometer functions, but I do like the Altimeter. I will be placing 2" gauges in the Clinometer spots. (Still trying to figure out where to place this...) With the colour match, it looks like it belongs as a piece of the Deli in my practice placements.

- Toyota 4Runner Clinometer Gage Cluster.
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And finally, here are the sprayers I am planning to use to cool the intercooler. Simple $5 spray nozzles from Home Depot. (The only ones available there actually.)

- Home Depot Garden Sprayer Nozzles
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Re: Intercooler Spray and Gauge Cluster
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:27 pm
by jessef
Nice !
Q. Why spray the intercooler ?
Last summer in 40+celcius, the intercooler never got hot during road trips.
The intercooler on the L400 does a good job. If working properly, no matter what the load/heat, it will always be warm. Enough so you can press your hand against it without discomfort.
One good mod would be to replace the intercooler hoses with solid pipe (alu or stainless). This eliminated any flex/buldging when lots of air is pushed through. Not much of a performance gain, but small noticeable better pickup.
The best '1st' performance mod you can do for the best bang-performance-for-the-buck is a 2.5" exhaust. Really makes a difference in how the engine breathes.
Like the additional pod.

Re: Intercooler Spray and Gauge Cluster
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:19 pm
by Mr. Flibble
jfarsang wrote:Nice !
Q. Why spray the intercooler ?
Last summer in 40+celcius, the intercooler never got hot during road trips.
The intercooler on the L400 does a good job. If working properly, no matter what the load/heat, it will always be warm. Enough so you can press your hand against it without discomfort.
One good mod would be to replace the intercooler hoses with solid pipe (alu or stainless). This eliminated any flex/buldging when lots of air is pushed through. Not much of a performance gain, but small noticeable better pickup.
The best '1st' performance mod you can do for the best bang-performance-for-the-buck is a 2.5" exhaust. Really makes a difference in how the engine breathes.
Like the additional pod.

Oh, there is no real need to spray the intercooler other than the fact that I have the spray bottles from my 4Runner! So, with the $5 nozzles and the $5 momentary switch from Radio Shack, I can try it out! I won't really be able to have any sort of definitive results on whether this does anything of any note until I get my gauges installed, and then I can look at the EGT. Apparently you should notice a difference in EGT temps with intercooler spray if it is working properly.
But, I must admit the real reason I am putting the sprayer on is just because I want to.
It will be fun to see if I can make any real difference with it!
I have heard that if you put the stainless intercooler pipes in the engine it makes it a bit of a pain to work on as you can't move the intercooler out of the way as easily.
Re: Intercooler Spray and Gauge Cluster
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:52 am
by madmazda
the only thing I would watch for is the spray going on the electrical bits underneath the intercooler and pre mature corrosion of said bits..... ie: bus bar for the glow plugs etc.... etc....
Re: Intercooler Spray and Gauge Cluster
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:27 pm
by Mr. Flibble
madmazda wrote:the only thing I would watch for is the spray going on the electrical bits underneath the intercooler and pre mature corrosion of said bits..... ie: bus bar for the glow plugs etc.... etc....
I don't think that will be too much of a problem as I probably won't use it very often. At this point, I don't even know if it will offer any benefits! However, I do know that a bunch of rain goes into the intercooler cowl, so my guess would be that Mitsubishi has already designed everything on the engine to handle water coming through that area.
Re: Intercooler Spray and Gauge Cluster
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:39 am
by madmazda
^^^ quite true..... however having a high horsepower turbo car the best way to get good reliable horsepower is to increase boost, BUT I wouldn't do too much on a delica cause you will run into boost creep due to under fueling, so adding a few psig to it wont hurt....

I plan on putting a 3mm washer behind the actuator thus building boost sooner as the waste-gate opens sooner....
Re: Intercooler Spray and Gauge Cluster
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:09 pm
by EnviroImports.com
just my $.02 worth, if you want more bang for your buck out of your intercooler, I would wire the FAN on the bottom of your intercooler to work with a toggle switch, rather than be temp controlled, so if your in Hot slow traffic, then you can turn it on and its going to force air through it, right now its set up to only come on when VERY hot outside, but the fan is there , its designed to work, even had a hood vent engineered into the plan, so why not make it work for you.. cooling sprays are good also, but im more of a fan of using the fan, than having the extra water spraying on the intercooler with electrical conections under it, Yes I know its designed for it with driving in rain and all that. but for a couple dollars, you can cool the air quicker and longer term with the allready there fan...
Re: Intercooler Spray and Gauge Cluster
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:14 pm
by thedjjack
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Re: Intercooler Spray and Gauge Cluster
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:36 am
by LeeHammy
Re: Intercooler Spray and Gauge Cluster
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:31 am
by jessef
That's just a pretty looking piece of pipe. It's too short to effectively cool the air passing through it. Would be better out front with constant airflow will lower the heat soak rate but under the hood of a Paj will just be bling. Looks cool though.
Better to spend your money upgrading the stock intercooler.
Re: Intercooler Spray and Gauge Cluster
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:14 pm
by LeeHammy
Yes I agree, repiping and putting it out front would work and it has no air restriction which is nice but unless you had that out front it wouldn't do much. Thought the idea looked cool and leave the idea for the taking. I am sure you could rig something up that would work. :)
Re: Intercooler Spray and Gauge Cluster
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:48 am
by EnviroImports.com
you dont have enough fluid or a strong enough pump to make the pump go on automatic, you will drain the bag or resovoir in no time and then burn out the pump, spraying the intercooler with water from a garden sprinkler is pointless, you will just add rust to the glow plug connectors, really its pointless, its not enough spray to make a difference, the idea to make enough temp drop is to spray CO2 on a vertical intercooler to ice the intercooler and give super dense air. if you want to make use of the parts you bough, pipe them to spray at your radiator if you are backing up a steep hill to cool your rad as the air isent being pushed into the rad and they overheat, that can hurt your transmission..
I have water/methanol injection on my L400 and my work truck, I use a marine 5 gallon jerry can and winter (with methanol) windshield wiper fluid, it drops your exhaust gas by about 150* with just water and the methanol give a nice boost , similar to a performance turbo vs stock turbo. its on a toggle switch. $300 and it actully helps and gives performance.
Re: Intercooler Spray and Gauge Cluster
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:33 am
by Big-Bird
I have had some experience with Washer Fluid spraying on aluminum parts. My wife has an 04 Nissan Quest and the main computer is cased in aluminum mounted outside the cab in the engine bay. Spent washer fluid comes into contact with the CPU and the aluminum housing eventually corroded through. This fried the CPU and put the van into safe mode.
It took 5 years for this happen so I can't help but wonder since Washer Fluid is mildly corrosive, what will it do to the L400's intercooler and other nearby aluminum parts over a prolonged period?
I know the EVO guys do this mod but it would be good to learn what trouble, if any they have had....just askin.
Re: Intercooler Spray and Gauge Cluster
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:46 am
by madmazda
What I do is spray wd-40 on the intercooler and other alumunum bits once in a while this just puts a light coating of oil to slow the corosion down seems to work ok
Re: Intercooler Spray and Gauge Cluster
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:48 am
by madmazda
One more thing i did was to remove the intercooler and clean out all the oil from inside that was being blown into the intake from the crank case and I removed the hose and am going to put an oil catch can to catch the vapours so they dont clog up the fins inside the intercooler and reduce the efficency of it...