exhaust replacement cost question

[jessef]

hello I just had mine done at quiet muffler on broadway in burnaby. stainless steel went out the side with it and got the 2.5 inch pipe. All said and done just under 300$ took about 45 min and the van runs way way way better. I am blown away by how much better it runs.

I had mine done at Quiet Muffler on kingsway like David's.

They did a really %!*& job on mine.

I had to take it to another muffler shop to cut and re-weld because Quiet Muffler did such a horrible job.

They were not friendly and when I had problems with mine, I took it back and they tried to blame me for the rattling (which was their fault).

I would not recommend them.

See here :

http://www.delica.ca/forum/2-5-side-exh ... -2387.html

I just got mine done at the same place, Quiet Muffler on Kingsway.

Mine came out to $369 tax in.

$70 MORE than David's for exactly the same thing.

He said David's was an 'experiment' and that they charged less labour on his then what it should have been.

I needed it done (muffler was coming apart) otherwise I would have shopped around.

Anyways, the welds are 'o-kay'. Sloppy in my opinion.

I'm going to install a pyro probe up in there and will clean up the weld from the downpipe and eliminate the 2 - 2.5" diameter bottleneck at the flange when I have some more time.

Jesse

[FalcoColumbarius]

Tell me Andre: Are you looking for something mandrel or do you just want a Delica exhaust pipe? I happen to have one in North Van. It is not new (as a matter of fact it is close to 17 years old) but the metal is in good shape.

PM me if you are interested... Falco.
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[northvanmatt]

Sorry folks yep it was on kingsway. http://www.quietmufflerandbrake.ca/ Stainless from just after the flange all the way back. Mardy told me to go there, they know Mardy well there. They have worked on lots of delica's. I just read jesse post about how he didn't have a great experience there. Thats to bad, maybe I just caught them on a good day.
I just found my bill and sorry it came to 330$ taxes in.

[andre66]

Thanks for the replies guys, phoned up cvi and talked to Butch, he will install one next week for me. Nothing wrong with my current exhaust but there is a hole in the end of the tailpipe and from what i gather, i need a new one to go through aircare.

[FalcoColumbarius]

Ah, I think most tail pipes have a hole at the end.

[Golf Cart]

Ah, I think most tail pipes have a hole at the end.

No flypoop on you Falco !

I just hacked off above the hole I had , and got a chrome tip from Ukranian Tire for 12 bucks, angled it downwards . Makes the Air Care dood get on his hands and knees if he's gonna stick anything up my pipe.

[fexlboi]

I can not recommend Quite Muffler on Kingsway as well. Even though they did a good job (I think). These guys are not friendly at all. Asking them questions is not welcome. Also be aware that this shop does NOT mandrel bend the pipes. They crush/pressure bend everything, which impacts the pipe diameter and the exhaust gas flow.

[impalator]

Any of you "side-exhaust" guys noticed that your rear tire/wheel (on the side behind the tip of the tail-pipe) getting dirtier (black soot from Diesel) or that the respective rear tire / wheel is getting hot?

Is there any law or regulations that would prohibit the pipe "sticking" out a bit further than just the body of the van (so that exhaust gas does get blown out a bit further when driving rather than being blown right onto the wheel)?

Not sure if I am taking it too far... but just wondering if there is any concern in this direction?

Cheers,
Chris

[Jaz]

I can not recommend Quite Muffler on Kingsway as well. Even though they did a good job (I think). These guys are not friendly at all. Asking them questions is not welcome. Also be aware that this shop does NOT mandrel bend the pipes. They crush/pressure bend everything, which impacts the pipe diameter and the exhaust gas flow.

Felix, Mandrel would be more expensive as they actually would have to get the bends in from elsewhere and then zap them all together. Mandrel bends are expensive, and not many, if any, shops actually make them there on the spot as they actually need to be extruded using special manufacturing machinery.

If you go bigger in diameter then crush bends aren't as bad as crush bends on the same size pipe. It's amazing the increase in the volume of a pipe for every extra half inch. Still, crush bends cause turbulence with the flow as well, so they're a not a good idea with high flow applications. For this sort of application though, it would make a difference, but not a huge seat-of-the-pants-dyno change.

You'd get more putting an intercooler on ;)

[fexlboi]

Felix, Mandrel would be more expensive as they actually would have to get the bends in from elsewhere and then zap them all together. Mandrel bends are expensive, and not many, if any, shops actually make them there on the spot as they actually need to be extruded using special manufacturing machinery.

Well, I have an appointment tomorrow at http://www.muffler-tech.com A custom exhaust fabricator with a mandrel bending machine in Port Coquitlam :) Will see how it goes. They also will fabricate a SS downpipe.
Being a perfectionist, I just don't like the old steel downpipe welded to a new exhaust. Also some of the 2.5" crushed pipes are actually now more 2.25" at the bending which is for sure not ideal and creates another bottleneck. I don't expect to have any noticeable power gain, but if I modify the exhaust, I want to do it right :)
This shop does also custom heads which would be nice too, but not affordable

[Jaz]

It'll be really interesting to see how you go with a new dump pipe, have you heard of many other folks changing theirs and the results? It'll be good as you'll be able to compare it to the stock exhaust, the upgrade you got from Quiet Muffler and with the new dump pipe.

Thanks for correcting me on Mandrels too, just had a read up on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipe_and_tube_bender) and it's not as select as I had thought. Perhaps it's just little old Tasmania that is too poverty stricken for exhaust shops to have their own mandrel bender ;)

[fexlboi]

Perhaps it's just little old Tasmania that is too poverty stricken for exhaust shops to have their own mandrel bender ;)

[Erebus]

Any of you "side-exhaust" guys noticed that your rear tire/wheel (on the side behind the tip of the tail-pipe) getting dirtier (black soot from Diesel) or that the respective rear tire / wheel is getting hot?

My 2.5" exits behind the wheel, so none of that is an issue. The reason it comes out the side is that I have a full width trailer hitch, so it couldn't come out the back. I haven't noticed any body soot though.

[jaggedfish]

My 2.5" side exhaust exits in front of the rear wheel... the muffler shop (White Rock Muffler) was awesome and, as always, did a nice job.

Yes, my rear tire was "sooting up" a bit and was hoping that would minimize once I had the van into CVI prior to driving to Calgary. The soot still happened - was climbing a lot of big "hills" getting out here and I haven't yet washed the van to see if it still occurs with everyday driving. The soot does come off easily with regular washing tho.

The down side of the side exhaust in the location I have it is when off-roading... any large bump in front of the rear wheel will be encountered by the tailpipe first... I will solve this by installing one of JFarsang's lift kits ...well... it's a good excuse... right? That said, I haven't damaged the exhaust at all even after having pushed the limits of clearance on several occasions. Just make sure any installation tucks the muffler up high enough to prevent any potential crushing if you are off-road.

Cheers!
Ian