square hollegen head lights

[rdub]

on my delica i have the square headlights x4, but the problem is that the 2 closer to inside of the van seem to be on high beam all the time ,and the outside lights very dim ,when i turn on the high beams ther is not much difference in brightness ive had to tilt them down and in so other drivers (idiots) dont swerve into my lane trying to kill themselves (idiots) so is there a wireing thing you think or just a good ol Delica thing. Just cant seem to figure this one out.

[Erebus]

First off, are they sealed beam halogens, or replaceable bulb halogens (H4 for low, H1 for high)?

If sealed beam, check your fuses. In previous vehicles I've had, if one headlight fuse burns out, they all come on, but weirdly such as you describe.

If H4/H1 rectangular, then it might be a wiring issue. I remember on a 1970's Datsun and Chevrolet, you had to cross wires for the high beam units for them to work (can't remember exact procedure). Quick check, unplug the high beam bulbs. If the low beams now behave normally, that is the problem.

Another possibility is that your high/low beam switch on the steering column is malfunctioning. Does dash high beam indicator work as it should?

Sorry I can't actually answer your question. Hope this helps.

[rdub]

yes the blue high beam light dose come on and they are sealed units that just plug into the light

[EnviroImports.com]

Im not sure if your still having this problem.
BUT one answer might be your day time running lights, some people... have simply run a low currant feed to the headlights that keep them on as soon as the van turns on and when you turn your lights on they get even more current, they will eventually die that way, but ive seen it done by people trying to not spend the whopping $30 on the DRL relay kit, or if they have messed up the job of trying to make it work with a relay and some wire.
This all is not saying that is whats going on, only a possiblity.

[visotzky]

I've got this issue as well, mmmm I'm wondering where you got your van? email me ands lets compare. Anyway if this is the case as noel suggests anyone know how to fix it?

[visotzky]

Had look underneath and this what i foundhttp://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x89/ ... G_5068.jpgHe used all red wires and are connected as follows. On the ignition side it looks like he hooked into the black and black/white wires, on the lights side he hooked into red/orange. all these go through a "Hela" relay ,which is removed in the picture One of the red wires goes to ground. without the relay there was no drl's. when i switched the lights on, on come the HB with the dimmed low beam and driving lights. I noticed that i see the highbeam indicator is dimly lit. when i push the lever forward the HB indicator lights up and the high beams from the dual( outside) beams come on, the inner HB's stay on as well.Fuses look good. please any ideas on how to undo this mess and make it work properly.
Cheers

[rdub]

Yeup! your right thats what mine looks like also. I talked to the fellas at silk road and they have had difficulties in this area there wireing guy is the one whos doing it.This is a problem cause now im getting the cold shoulder treatment a bit, I too really want this problem fixed and i know nothing about wiring ,ill keep you up to par with any possible fix. sorry i couldn't help.
Best regards
Richard .W (rdub)

[BCDelica]

Wow, that is quite the birdsnest, is that two quick splice connectors (blue) that you can just make out past the closest wiring harness? Only suggestion I have would be to remove all the splices and match wire everything back to original; then start from the with your DRL's anew.

Hard to really have an answer for you without seeing it in person, am having problems with highbeams with our 'square'. We can turn the highbeams on but can't switch them off and it doesn't appear to be the relay - which is located above and to the right (looking forward) of the fuse panel, the highbeam relay is the front, lower one of the 4 cylinder shaped relays.

Regards,
Kev

[EricN]

I suspect you have a bad ground somewhere if everything is still messed up with the relay out. Although looking at that mess of a wiring job, anything is possible. If one of you lives near Coquitlam and wants to come by I can take a quick look at it and see what I can figure out.

[BCDelica]

You talking about me?!? Good idea, I'll look into that cause I just assumed it was a switching problem. Easy to check, more so then pulling both steering wheels and swapping out the selector switches; which was my next plan of attack.

Wish there was a map of the relay panel available.

Thanks Eric, make that two coffee's I owe you.
Kev

[EricN]

You talking about me?!? Good idea, I'll look into that cause I just assumed it was a switching problem. Easy to check, more so then pulling both steering wheels and swapping out the selector switches; which was my next plan of attack.

Wish there was a map of the relay panel available.

Thanks Eric, make that two coffee's I owe you.
Kev

Put that out to everyone in this thread. They all sound like ground faults, and yes you are still invited.
p.s. Just in case someone is wondering, I am not interested in working on Deli's on the side, I just want a crack at figuring out this problem and then posting the fix for everyone to read.

[visotzky]

Thanks Ericn, How to you find a bad ground, I will check that first. However i get the feeling that this was done on purpose as the HBeams have been aimed/adjusted down as to not blind opposing drivers. I guess i will have to do as BCdelica mentioned and match every thing back. and do the DRL's over again.
Cheers

[EricN]

I am not so sure there is much to fix in relation to the DRL. Looking at your wiring, although it is a butcher hack job, I dont see anything related to the DRL that has been cut, it all looks spliced. I do see some wires further back with splice connectors on and the one stuffed in with the fuse makes me cringe but (and this is a guess without looking at it) I think there is something more wrong other than just pulling out those wires and starting over, unless you are saying it is all working great now that the relay is out (other than no DRL obviously). If that is the case, then when I can get back into the wiki (not working for some reason) I will download the schematics again and take a look at the wiring colors you posted and see what I can figure out.

[EricN]

p.s. As for checking the grounds, pull out the headlights, make sure the connectors and wiring are ok (not burnt or corroded), use a test light and make sure that the power wiring and the ground wiring all work. Even stuff an extra wire in the ground terminal and ground it (temporary, diagnostic only) see if that helps.

[DelicaMark]

Hmmm that looks familiar! I don't have the high beam issue but I do have the same wiring and relay job for my low beams. I have already had to replace the Hella relay. My lights started to not turning off. The only way to get them to turn off was to tap the relay. I never bothered calling Karim on it as I knew I'd be fixing it myself anyway.

Buyer beware with these vans...buyer beware!

-Mark