Gas buy the Aerostar....Trust me I have an Aerostar...Purchase price $900.00 repairs in 2 years of ownership=quick tune up (cam sensor, spark plugs, wires, shocks, total ~$400.00 and a few oil changes)... We drive it like we stole it.... It is our townie... When we are done with it we will sell it for $900.00... Never warmed up, always driven hard, never let us down... That is $6900 still in the pocket to buy a trailer or few tie downs to collapse the suspension to fit your dirt bike..
Honestly the gas vs diesel who cares buy and drive what you want...you like gas great...other like the chance to own a diesel which you cannot easily get in NA.
I only go long hauls in the Delica and no problem waiting 5 seconds for my glow plugs...or giving the motor a few minutes to warm up.. Sure I wished it had a little more power...but any motor swap I think of is just a different Diesel...
Can we have a post on the hoovercraft now that looks interesting
I don't find my L400 all that rattley. I have no problem getting up to 100 km/h with the engine. It has a lot of torques. More torques it seems than my wife's V6 gas Jeep Sahara.
I like having lots of torques under the hood. Depending on what you do, this can be a big advantage - especially offroad where extra torques come in handy.
As to the pollution factor, a diesel emits more VISIBLE pollution. As a gasser consumes a greater volume of fuel, it actually emits more pollution than the diesel. The difference it is just not visible. Worse, a gasser gives off lots of carbon monoxide, whereas a diesel does not. (Modern gassers don't as much now, due to catalytic converters doing their work).
The diesels are easier to obtain though, this is because the Ozzies grab the gassers first and run them on propane conversions.
Waiting for glow plugs: advantage gas - I dont really wait for mine, for more than a second or 2.
Waiting for warm up: advantage gas I dont wait for it to warm up, I drive it, that warms it up fastest.
Waiting for cool down: advantage gas - Irrelevant, My other gas car has a turbo too, I let them both spin down before shutting off the oil supply.
Smell: advantage gas - Irrelevant, I am ahead of the fumes mostly.
Smoothness/vibrations: advantage gas - Its a truck, it's MEANT to feel like that.
Sound: advantage gas It's a truck, it's MEANT to sound like that.
Fuel cost: advantage gas - My fuel is paid for, KTHXBAI.
Fuel mileage: Push* - See above
Initial cost to buy: advantage gas - Possibly, as secondhand auction items though there is a ot of other factors.
Speed/power: advantage gas - Diesel has a more usable peak torque range for a lot of town driving, and enough peak hp to make it usable on the highway.
Environmental impact: advantage gas - You can grow diesel, not gas.
Maintenance costs: Push* - 2.5td diesels need nothing like the maintenance of modern diesels.
lol why are you guys responding to buy an astro or aerostar when that isn't even related to the question. There is more to the delica that makes it cool than its engine. Unless your name is Ricky or Julian noone should ever intentionaly buy an Astro or Aerostar...geez.
I think we need to vote for a new Delica.ca catagory for Hovercrafts. That thing kicks ass! A really cool picture would be of the Hovercraft towing the Delica, and you riding alongside on your hoverboard.
Ok, due to popular demand, I'll get a thread going on my escape vehicle (hoovercraft) as soon as I have a chance. Thinking of repowering it with a diesel, oh ya!
Jason
I love diesel, cuz in a traffic accident it won't explode and kill me.
I can put out a match by dipping it in my spare diesel jerrycan, try that with gas ... err do NOT try that with gas. I can use it to light a campfire without explosion. I put a small wick (cotton shoelace) in a small tin, result is a camp lantern, bit smokey, but I still have eyebrows, and the mosquitoes stay away.
Hey, I herewith officially request First Refusal rights to the Hoovercraft if you ever sell it.
Still looking for a sturdy single burner DIESEL camp stove, any ideas? Thus no need to store camping gas, just fill up from the same vehicle that gets me to campsite. The MSR International stove has poor reviews for the diesel version. Obviously any diesel stove would need pressurizing, by pumping the fuel container before lighting just like the faithful coleman green campstove... anyone heard if one can replace the jets on that to handle the different size diesel droplets?
Hugs Christine
Christine
Of The TardisDeli My TardisDeli travels thru time and space. Our house is nicknamed the TardisDeli Motel, as so many delii owners visit to share delii stories.
I have been using a MSR Dragonfly for years. It comes with 2 different shaker jets. One for Gas/White Gas. The other for Kerosene/Diesel.
It is great, good simmer control and can get insanely hot. I have only used it with white gas so far however.
One word of warning. It is loud. And by loud I mean jet-engine loud. The whisperlite is a better choice for noise, but I don't think it does multi-fuel.
I had a diesel L300 for a few years , drove it to Halifax and back , no problems.
I had a diesel L400 SWB for a couple of years , drove it around the states , no problems except AC.
Now I have a V6 Gasser L400 LWB and........ no problems.
Every vehicle swap was for more power , I was used to V8's before I got into the deli world and I found the diesels to be underpowered for my driving style.
I drive the snot out of every van I've ever had (6 and counting, always been a van guy), I have lead soled shoes.I have always maintained my vans meticulously . And I love the power of the V6, it's certainly not a race car but I can drive a bit more aggressively when conditions warrant.
That being said , I do miss the ways of the diesel, the simplicity of the motor, the economy for sure( I average 16Lper100km now) and even the smell.
I don't feel as confident withe durability of new van yet but I don't have very many km on it yet.(i'll never go back to a shorty tho)
I won't be selling this van anytime soon but if I could swap in a diesel with 130+ hp I would be sorely tempted.
I won't post a picture the tiny 12$ oil filters these gassers take.
cheers y'all
ps ... both of my diesels warmed up faster than my gasser
pps... listening to the radio at normal levels and talking to my passengers without yelling is great.
Alright... I guess it all comes to our own preferences.
We can throw insults, facts or comparison, it will all comes down to what we want, what we feel is right or what we would like to associate ourselves to.
Diesel has it's plus and minus and petrol has it's plus and minus.
We can argue over facts, but in the end, it's all about our own perspective and passion.
I've owned a Subaru impreza WRX for years now. For me, this is the ultimate vehicle to drive and have fun. Yeah if you'd have 100K you'd go for something else, but for the price, size and look... 300HP is one hell of an amazing car!!! And I'm about to put it up for sale. You think I'm ok with this? Hell no!!!
But I have my own reasons and goals.
I love my Delica L300. I love the sound, I love the feel of driving it slowly in town, around and on the highway. But I don't get that sheer pleasure that I have, driving my WRX.
Fuel wise, the subaru is terrible compared to the Delica. But at this point, I cannot pull my trailer with neither. So I opted to a solid vehicle, a Pajero, petrol... (BLASPHEMY) some of you might say... but... wait a minute, this is MY choice... I WANT a petrol vehicle regardless of what you might think or want in your own life. I know it will cost more money then a diesel, but at least I know I can add a turbo in it if I want and have even more power or I can just leave it the way it is and enjoy it.
So you might want to share your love for your diesel or your petrol, but in the end, again, it is all about what you want.
I love my L300. It will die in my hands. But I will never discard a petrol one. You can insult me by saying that I should have bought an Astro (which I have no problem with if you like them) But I opted for a Pajero, petrol (BLASPHEMY) which has a pretty good reputation in Australia, South Africa and the UK.
So, enjoy whatever vehicle you have and respect every one else's vehicle they own...
Good night!
Fred
Why driving on well traveled route when you can beat your own path...
-The Mighty Yeti
Fun Long Road Trip on road, dirt and ice - Delica L300 Pop-Top Camper
Fun playing around in the mud and work horse - Pajero GDI 3.5L 6cyl LWB
Best vehicle in all conditions - Subary Impreza WRX
There's something oddly compelling about my L300. Personally, I hope it's just the novelty aspect since I've noly had it for a few months, but I freaking love this vehicle. Until, recently I had a nice BMW convertible, and while it was also a fun car to drive it was a little boring, and to be honest, I decided to give that one a go simply because of the panache of a BMW. But that got old pretty quickly and for the most part it just became another car. But I love driving my van much more; the sound and feel, the looks, the ride height and visibility. The guts of the thing just seems so much more enjoyable as a driver. Plus after having camperized it, I love pulling over at a beach and making coffee while gazing out over the water with the slider open. Once I get off my ass and install my WVO kit, I'll love it even more driving with free fuel.
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Mr. Flibble wrote:I have been using a MSR Dragonfly for years. It comes with 2 different shaker jets. One for Gas/White Gas. The other for Kerosene/Diesel.
It is great, good simmer control and can get insanely hot. I have only used it with white gas so far however.
One word of warning. It is loud. And by loud I mean jet-engine loud. The whisperlite is a better choice for noise, but I don't think it does multi-fuel.
x 2 on the MSR Dragonfly. LOUD and by loud I mean that nobody can talk around you when you're cooking. Advantage is that BTU's are so high that you're done cooking in a few minutes. You can pretty much jam the crappiest fuel sources into this little stove, it's got a self cleaning needle jet and can be completely disassembled and maintained out in the bush. Been thrashing on mine for over 8 years and it keeps working.
To the OP. Purchased a Diesel L300 to run WVO + 45 acres to grow canola in preparation for resource scarcity but who knows, RUG (regular unleaded gas) ain't disappearing anytime soon. Lets be honest though, the 4D56T (1993 with oil cooled turbo) is an overworked little motor for the heavy L300.
1993 Delica L300, SWB, LSD, Super Exceed with Crystal-Lite, mostly stock but it's got a digital EGT!!!
1995 Delica L400, LWB, Super Exceed with Crystal-lite, Airlift airbags, SS intercooler pipes, soon to be WVO
1997 Isuzu ELF 2.0Ton Crane truck, 4300cc diesel, NKR66E
Mine is a 1973 model once you learn to balance a pot, it rocks. No pump just pour fuel on it and light it. No pump to break, no parts, seals, and the jet self cleans!! Burns anything that burns but wood.
