L400 Procomp Shocks - confusion and quick confirmation

[stever1000]

I have searched numerous threads and I'm getting two different part numbers for STOCK L400 shocks WITHOUT ECS.

I've copied and pasted some quotes, and bolded the part numbers in question....




Subject: HD springs and shocks

Is it ok to assume for procomp ES9000 shocks?

stock
913515
919520

w/ 2'' lift
915515
921520

Thanks
Antoine

Can anyone verify this?

Verified !

The Landy springs part # RFR-20HD - do work and give a solid 2 inches of rear lift on a LWB L400. Only mod required is to cut an file down to shape on end which take 10 mins or so.

DIFFERENT:

Subject: L400 stock shock upgrade?

front 14.5 stroke length
rear 23.5 stroke length

In my opinion, you would be better off with Procomp or Bilstein's than Rancho's unless you sandblast and repaint the Rancho shock body. They are prone to rusting. However, there are people riding on Rancho's and love them. Personal preference.

ECS - ride height adjustment. It comes stock on Royal Exceeds, most Super and some base Exceed's. You'll see the ECS button beside the hazard light button in the middle of the dash. Also the ECS shocks are pin top/eye bottom. The non-ECS shocks are eye top/eye bottom.

Procomp part numbers

Front : 914510
Rear : 923510 (ECS) / 923509 (non-ECS)

You'll need 5/8 poly bushings to replace the rubber one's that come with the procomp's. Part number : PV2028

Bilstein part numbers

Front : F4-B46-2109
Rear : F4-B46-2111 (ECS) / F4-B46-2110 (non-ECS)

The Bilstein's will have the best ride. The HD Bilstein shocks are suited specifically for the L400's. They are amazing shocks.

Subject: replaced front shocks on our L400 ... what a difference

Replaced the front shocks on our L400 yesterday ... what a difference in the ride!
We were getting a slight vibration through the steering column before at highway speed and this is gone now.
More importantly ... the van does not bounce badly when going over bumps (like speed bumps) at low speeds.
I am very curious to see how the van handles on the highway in windy weather now, and I am wondering if I should also replace the back shocks now.

I ended up going with Pro Comp 9000 series shocks (Ordered 2 x 914510 for the front from Lordco w/ replacement bushings PV2028). Lordco did not end up having the replacement bushings on hand after saying they did not need to order them over the phone ... it can be very frustrating dealing with them!

If you think your van bounces around a lot I would definitely think about replacing the shocks.

Subject: Pro Comp shocks part #s

im buying these shockies

ES9000 Series Shock Absorber - 913515
and ES9000 Series Shock Absorber by Pro Comp - 919520

the pictures from this site im buying from http://www.4wheelparts.com/ show the shockies to have round connection at the top and bottom of the shock, but i know from just looking at my L300 front shocks that i need a round connection on one side of the shocky and a pointy connection on the other side...

as you probably have noticed im a freakin newb when it comes my van, but im learning slowly.. any help would be greatly appreciated as i would love to get this order finalised.. thankyou


plus this is my first post :)

These are actually what I ended up going with (by recommend from jfarang). Installed and working beautifully.

Procomp 9000 series.

Front shocks : 914515
Rear shocks : 921520

5/8" hourglass Polyeurethane bushings : PV2028

Could someone explain the difference in numbers? I want to order these for an upcoming trip.

Is the front 914510 or 913515 or 914515?
Is the rear 919520, 921520 or 923509 (923509 didn't come up in lordco's system)?

Thanks in advance!

[stever1000]

Found this on another site:

1st digit denotes product type: (1=ES1000, 3=ES3000, 9=ES9000)
2nd, 3rd, and 4th digits denotes extended length of the shock. (215 = 21.5”)
5th digit denotes mounting (top/bottom)
0 = loop/loop 1 = stem/loop
2 = loop/stem 3 = stem/stem
4 = 2” loop / 2” loop 5 = LG. stem / 2” loop
6 = LG. stem / lg.stem 7 = 2” loop / LG. stem
6th digit denotes mounting hardware included in the box.



I know the stroke length from above, but not the extended length of the shock, and i don't want to pull 2 shocks just to measure. The search will continue...

[stever1000]

From the UK forum: http://www.mdocuk.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12885

Here is a list of the correct fitment for Pro-Comp shocks on L400's :

Front:

913515 or 913518

914515 or 914518

Any of the above four numbers will fit an L400 and don't worry if the last digit is missing off the shock itself! The last number relates to the pack of fitting parts that are in the box, not the shock itself!

Rear:

With ECS: 924510 or 923510

Without: 924500 or 923500

The way the numbers work are as follows:

The first digit denotes the type of shock i.e. 9 for ES9000

The second, third and fourth digit denote the EXTENDED length of the shock i.e. 235 = 23.5" or 245 = 24.5" but the one inch difference between the ones listed will make no real odds to the motor because the axle will never travel this far, so the bigger number is not really needed! The same with the 135 or 145 of the front shock...as mentioned, ANY of the shocks will fit perfectly, one is not better than the other...

The fifth digit denotes the mounting arrangement i.e. 0 = loop top and loop bottom, 1 = pin/thread top and loop bottom (now you might be able to see the difference between the ECS and non-ECS shocks??)

The sixth digit denotes the mounting kit supplied in the box: 8 or 0 both work for L400's, but I'm not too sure what the difference between each kit actually is! Lets just say that either are fine!!

Sorry to bombard you with so many numbers, but as long as you have ANY of the four numbers for the front set and either of the numbers for the rear (according to ECS or non-ECS) then you will be fine! Very Happy

Hope that helps?

Regards,

Bruce.

[stever1000]

Can anyone explain the difference in the numbers?
Thanks!

[Yukonflyer]

So I have a question about the stroke lengths listed above, is the the stock stroke or a lifted stroke? Or does it stay the same with a lift?
Did you ever get the numbers sorted out?
Did you look into bilstien numbers or only the procomp?

Thank So!

[FalcoColumbarius]

Hi Yukon, Stever,
If you want to be certain of the shock OEM numbers, go to the board index/Delica Canada Technical/Delica FAQ Section/"Useful Links For Vehicle Identification Purposes". Scroll down to "JDM Online Catalogue", and follow the directions. This will ascertain all the stock part numbers for your wagon. Once you have the OEM number you should be able to cross reference an equivalent part. This is a great thread for this kind of information and you should check out some of the other links there in.

In the past some people have come onto this site and posted information from other sites without verifying the information and then signing their name to it, which is why some informational facts from the same or different sources do not necessarily correlate. That post by Mystery Machine (Bruce) is likely to be correct from my experience.

Hope this helps you out...

Falco.

[Yukonflyer]

Thanks Falco!

Also, Talked to CCA and they say with the new HD springs they are selling, no need for spacers or adjusting the proportioning valve, the springs bring the back end back up to where it was when it left the factory

[thelazygreenfox]

YF
Really???? Measure 37" at the top of the wheel well. Thats where my van sits with the new rear springs. Hmm?

Re shock length: I've posted the same before. Do a search.
Using a floor jack( or?) lower and raise the back and front of your van with the present shocks, measure the shock length at the ends of travel. That's the length you need! If you're raising the van add the extra distance of the raise plus the angle of the rear shocks.

Go to the procomp or (?) web site and select the strongest shock you can find for that dimension. Some of those shock listed in the past no longer exist.

Buy a shock longer than the dimensions of travel. Imagine if you decide to raise your van in the future and bought shocks an inch too short???? Too short a shock will destroy itself quickly, longer just doesn't use all its travel. Too long isn't safe, check the short dimensions too...

Too long could allow the rear end to lift higher than spring travel, pop your springs and rip off your brake lines too when you crazy 4X4. Limiting straps are needed in this extreme..
TLGF

[thelazygreenfox]

YF
If you phone the shock sales dept don't believe the measurements they give you. Verify the numbers your self. Tose guys don't know if they're punched or bored!!!!
TLGF

[Yukonflyer]

YF
Really???? Measure 37" at the top of the wheel well. Thats where my van sits with the new rear springs. Hmm?

Thanks for that,
Hey, I'm just repeating what I got from CCA, they say they install their HD springs into the l400 without the addition of spacers anywhere in the back and don't normally even need to adjust the proportioning valve.

so I guess I'll put them in and see.

They do however suggest that they do put in ball joint spacers in the front. I'm assuming that is to level the Delica again