Oil change

[JMK]

I think Oil changes can be a real pain if you don't have a handy spot to do them, eg, you live in an Apartment, and you don't have a few necessary additional items such as ramps, axel stands, some split firewood (the poor man's wheel blocks) and one of those plastic 20l plastic collecting basins with the huge screw off lid on it. I keep my old oil containers and transfer the old oil back into them and then take them to work where it is easy to dispose of properly.

I've done all that because of various reasons.

-I've heard horror stories about the quick lube type businesses. (Stories like drain plugs falling out, stripping the drain plug threads, overfilling, underfilling, swapping the oil you pay for for cheap oil, swapping for cheap or wrong filters, raising your vehicle wrong on the hoist, overbilling, etc.) If they are doing a grease job they aren't excactly interested in making sure they find every grease nipple, especially on those vehicles they are not familiar with. On the grease nipples they do find, where applicable, it is not uncommon to see they popped the rubber grease boots by overfilling. I like to do it myself so I know it's being done correctly with the exact oil and grease I want, which I can usually buy much cheaper than their retail price.
- As per above, savings. There should be significant savings involved with doing it yourself.
- Convenience. I don't live in the city where these places exist. As I can pop out to my driveway and change the oil in less than 30 minutes, that's more convenient anyway.

The one thing I did notice however, if you have one of those apparently useless Lubrico Warranties, you have to take your vehicle to a lube shop or you've got no warranty.

All in all I find the oil changes one of the less onerous tasks to complete once you've got a few extra necessities to make it easy, and of course the place to do it. Probably the part I enjoy the least is getting at the grease nipples near the back when you've got the vehicle raised at the front.

[coaxial]

Yup I live in an apartment and although I have the tools, don't feel like crawling around on the street most of the time.

Yeah I stopped at quick lube once and another place once and was turned away both times as they had no filter and were scared of such a weird vehicle. Mr Quick Lube & Oil had the filter, no issues, and said they have lots of delicas come in. They know where everything is, all the grease points (there are 12?), fluids, etc. I've watched the whole service from above and from below in the pit and they do a good job. They found a few things my mechanic couldn't actually. Hmm it would seem there are only two in the Vancouver area:

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&ge ... =UTF8&z=10

[Jungle Jon]

I'm very tempted to use the MaxOverdrive Advantage filters, just a bit concerned about the quality.

I picked up a few Advantage air filters, and I was a bit concerned about the quality too. When I counted the pleats, it had about 75 compared to 120 in the Micro air filter that it replaced. That's a LOT less surface area of filter, and I'll have to change it out sooner. Sure it was cheaper but you get what you pay for. For oil changes, I use the Napa gold 1067 filter ($33) and Rotella. Don't want to cut corners with something so crucial to my engine.

I tried "mr lube" once in the Delica... it was pretty clear that they didn't want my business...

A while back I called a Mr Lube on Macleod Trail, the kid on the phone really wanted to help, couldn't find the filter on his computer (of course) but was willing to let me bring my own. Unfortunately they didn't have enough of the oil I wanted. I called another one several blocks down the road from them, under the same ownership, and got nothing but attitude and the 'we don't work on Japanese spec cars' BS. Probably a good thing, from all the horror stories I've heard.

I've found a garage now that seems to actually ENJOY working on the vehicle...

Care to share?

[Green1]

Jon: Ruminante and I are using Kirkham automotive, they are located by the heritage LRT station, Ruminante has been using them for years on his previous vehicle and trusts them, so I decided to give them a try. They seem to enjoy working on the vehicle, and I have yet to have any reason to question them at all, they aren't afraid of "different" and are quite resourceful at making things work.

The only catch is they don't do any specialized work on diesel engines, so for that stuff need to take it elsewhere, but anything that isn't diesel specific they'll do no problem.

PS, I got a phone call from one of your co-workers the other day indicating that there was a Delica for sale at your workplace... is it yours?

[Jungle Jon]

Yep, big blue is going up for sale (again ) Wifey says we have to pay for the basement reno somehow, one of my toys has to go. Thanks for the pointer to Kirkham.

[delicat]

As for oil filters go, I'm getting my bus serviced this week and bought parts from MardyDelica. He offered me the choice between 2 filters, one of them is original from Japan at about $32 or so. I'll compare the visual of the two but in my case I didn't hesitate to pay $5 or $10 extra for the Japanese one...

As some already mentioned, you get what you pay for... but be diligent!

[patty]

ok super noob quetion of the day, iv never done an oil/oil filter change on anything but a motor cross bike.Any one want to type me up a step by step?would be much apreciated.
thanks

[marsgal42]

Drive van for a few kilometers to warm up engine.

Park, take whatever safeguards you need to be comfortable crawling underneath.

Remove plug from oil pan, drain into a suitable container. I have a special flat container that fits under oil pans, and has a big funnel. The oil will be hot.

Once the oil flow is down to a few drips, replace the plug, with a new gasket. Finger tight, then a firm push on a wrench. Do Mitsubishi specify a torque value for this?

Remove oil filter. Be prepared for it to drip. Use an oil filter wrench.

Pour some fresh oil in to the new oil filter. Wet the sealing ring on the filter with some oil. Tighten it by hand until snug, then 3/4 turn further.

Pour fresh oil in to engine through the filler in the cam/rocker cover until it shows full on the dipstick.

Start engine, check for leaks, stop engine.

Top up oil until full.

Oil grades and capacities are documented in the owner's manuals (MMC and Russek), and our wiki.

...laura

[Green1]

Do Mitsubishi specify a torque value for this?

"engine sump drain plug: 35-45Nm" (not sure if that's the right one?)

[Don M]

Hey, I am new to this site. I have a 91 pajero (same engine as the delica) but more important is it takes the same Baldwin BD28 oil filter (these are great quality oil filters). Go to any peterbuilt (there is one in Abbotsford and Surrey) store and you can order them for 18.00$. Here is the link to there site [url] http://www.peterbilt.com/dealer/dlrstat ... 20Columbia'/ url]. I just order a few at a time. As far as oil changes go I also get my oil from them, and bring both the oil and filter to great canadian oil change. They charge $20 if you bring your own stuff. Cost of total service $18 for filter $20 for oil and $20 for labour.

[Pajerist]

hi everybody!

I am looking for Shell Rotella 10W40 in Great Van area.
Does anybody know where to get it?

Thanks a lot.

PS C.Tire and Walmart do not carry it...

[marsgal42]

hi everybody!

I am looking for Shell Rotella 10W40 in Great Van area.
Does anybody know where to get it?

Thanks a lot.

PS C.Tire and Walmart do not carry it...

Try a truck stop or a marine supply place. West Marine carry Chevron's equivalent (Delo 400); I've seen it on the shelf there. If they don't have the Shell stuff, they might know who does.

These are specialist products. It's not suprising least-common-denominator stores do not carry them.

...laura

[Pajerist]

Thanks, Laura!

I'll try and share my findings.

[fishslapper]

maybe someone can edit the filter cross reference post in the frequently asked questions area.
The k&n ph 3001 should be taken off the list if it is not the right filter !!

Someone i know just went out today and bought one of these from lorco because of the fact that it is listed as confirmed in that section of the forum !!

(i have no idea who that could have been ! )

[MardyDelica]

I have oil filter in stock genuine made in japan.
why bother go to lordco as they sell more expensive & its made in korea not japan.
i sell my oil filter (Japan) cheaper than lordco which is korean made filter Fram.
Hope this help. cheers;
Mardy