Any delica hunters out there have any "spare" antlers?

[konadog]

Hey all. I am posting this because I know there are a number of fellow delica drivers who use their delicas for hunting. We have been using bits of antler for the dogs to chew - it's ideal as it is very hard, mineral rich, and clean. Good for their teeth etc. and house friendly - and they LOVE it. After dinner for a 1/2 hour or so a few times a week keeps their teeth sparkling We're running low though and are having trouble resupplying. Any delica-hunters have any they would be willing to sell? Thanks

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[Golf Cart]

Hey guys,

Will a set of Moose antlers do? They are not wall mount size. They are off a 4 year old bull that yielded 600 pounds of awesome meat. Soon as my camera is charged I can shoot you a pic

[konadog]

Will a set of Moose antlers do? They are not wall mount size.

IDEAL! The last piece I have is moose that I have been sawing into strips, yum. Anyway, thanks Golf Cart, Most grateful

[Adrock]

maybe i should start hunting for some raw food for my puppy, and she can have the antlers too. Strange coming from a vegetarian but I have a strange desire to try bow hunting.

[Golf Cart]

Strange coming from a vegetarian but I have a strange desire to try bow hunting.

Just make sure to take a lot of carrots. Gets lonely sitting up in a tree stand for hours and hours.

Wild game is the worst thing to feed a domesticated animal, especially raw.

[JMK]

Wild game is the worst thing to feed a domesticated animal, especially raw.

Why is that? I know high fat content meat is very bad for domestic animals, but meat from wild ungulates such as Elk is very lean, and does not contain hormones, antibiotics, etc., and is therefore generally thought preferable. Perhaps you are referring to not eating Polar Bear Liver and then dying from acute hypervitaminosis A?

Here's one link that exponds on the subject of diets for domestic animals:
http://www.rawmeatybones.com/diet/ExpDiet.html

Oh, and back to the topic, if you're stuck we can find you somethig here (in ALberta), but getting it to Campbell River could be problematic. Maybe could chop it up into 6" pieces and send it by mail.

[konadog]

I'm with you JMK - I think game is a way healthier choice of meat for us and for dogs. Industrial meat production scares me, both ethically and health-wise - Listera, anyone I'm a "vegetarian" though I would eat game on occasion because I believe it is safe and healthy and I like the atavistic connection into the depths of human history. But, alas, my hunting days are behind me, so apart from watching dogs gnaw antlers, I suppose I'll stick to beans and rice! I also believe that any concerns over a dog becoming aggressive from eating raw meat are misguided. Dog behaviour is a matter of human leadership. If a dog is violent it's his boss's fault for not taking control. See Cesar Millan,The Dog Whisperer for further information: http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/ And Adrock, bow hunting sounds like a trip, esp. for a vegetarian! I'm sure Ruby would love ya for the first rate grub and the antlers to chew. She sure is a beautiful dog! Wow, just gorgeous. I heard through the deli-vine she's sweet and easy going, nice. And with those crazy long legs I bet she's fast too... Anyway, thanks Golf Cart and JMK for your help in finding antlers, the whole pack here is most grateful

[Golf Cart]

JMK , That was a good read. I stand corrected. My info came from an old gentleman I met on a hunting trip many years ago.

Konadog, glad I could help out. I am poochless now until we make the move up country, so any chance to help out a fellow dogowner gives me a smile.

As for bow-hunting , I seem to recall Jfarsang mentioning flinging sticks on a trip to Oregon. Just might have to bring out the bows for one of the Deli bushcrashes and a few bales of hay. You might want to check out 3-D shooting. Lifesize sponge animals set out on a course through the forest. Its a good time.

kthksbye

[EnviroImports.com]

If you get down to Victoria, my father inlaw has a whole small room full of antlers from moose-deer, bloody things are everwhere, he said you could have some if you want them,
Noel

[Adrock]

I went into the archery shop in new west actually and asked where to start, they told me to take a course and i shouldn't buy anything until i do. I just want to shoot at stuff... I see where he was coming from, but he talked himself out of selling a bow. A simple "this would be fun to shoot in the back yard" would probably have sold it. But maybe its kind of like gun owners only wanting other responsible gun owners, He doesn't know i'm not going to shoot the neighbours cat...

Anyways, I started ruby on a raw diet but she seems to be picky on certain days. So i have some canned food that is meat only, then some dry that she nibbles on to balance it out as per the vets recommendations. Got any tips for improving husky recall? She is great when there are no distractions, but its not an issue when there are no distractions haha. She is a great dog, i'm sure she would love to meet yours. I'll bring her out some time soon.

[Golf Cart]

I went into the archery shop in new west actually and asked where to start, they told me to take a course and i shouldn't buy anything until i do. I just want to shoot at stuff... I see where he was coming from, but he talked himself out of selling a bow. A simple "this would be fun to shoot in the back yard" would probably have sold it. But maybe its kind of like gun owners only wanting other responsible gun owners, He doesn't know i'm not going to shoot the neighbours cat... .

Adrock
Actually he may have done you a favour. A course wouldnt be a bad idea. At least you get instructions on the proper use and care. You might find its not for you. Easier swallowing 50-100 bucks for a course instead of 500-750 on gear only to find its not for you. Plus a course would give you better exposure to the different kinds of bows without having to purchase. There use to be an indoor range just up the street from his shop. ( and crossbows are used for close range targets )

[Adrock]

yeah. I understand that, and probably would have considered doing it if they had not been booked until january. I'm not much of a waiter, and that is planning a long time in advance for me...

[konadog]

If you get down to Victoria, my father inlaw has a whole small room full of antlers from moose-deer, bloody things are everwhere, he said you could have some if you want them,
Noel

Hey thanks Noel. We really appreciate it- I'll pm.

Anyways, I started ruby on a raw diet but she seems to be picky on certain days. So i have some canned food that is meat only, then some dry that she nibbles on to balance it out as per the vets recommendations. Got any tips for improving husky recall? She is great when there are no distractions, but its not an issue when there are no distractions haha. She is a great dog, i'm sure she would love to meet yours. I'll bring her out some time soon.

Adrock. For raw food consider N.R.G. http://www.nrgpetproducts.com/ Available at Woofy's for sure, though through other places too. We use the "Raw One." It's expensive, but the dogs do really well on it. When our last dog Red first developed his skin issues the vet suggested it. Didn't help 'ole Red's skin problems, but we like it all the same and recommend it to all dog owners. Made in BC too.
As for recall, well, that's the most important command and the toughest one. Kona is bad too, though he is so seldom off leash at this point it's kinda moot. Now that we have the new puppy though, we are getting more serious. Kona is just starting to get balanced as well, so is ready for more challenges - puppy already recalls easy, but she has never been off balance. Anyway, what I do know is this: Choose a command "COME" is the most common, but it doesn't matter as long as you and your dog know the word. Never - NEVER, NEVER, NEVER use that command if you think dog will ignore you. If you do and the dog does you're way set back. To teach them, get a 10m rope and clip dog in to one end. Make dog sit and walk away. Start by only going a few steps and work up to the whole 10 m. With the dog still sitting (dog must learn the sit-stay first, but that's easy) call the dog with your chosen command. If the dog hesitates yard it in and get it to sit infront of you. Don't pussy-foot around either, give her a good pull. Not mean, or with anger or intent to hurt or punish, just to get it through that "COME" means right now! Lots of people reward with a treat or over the top praise, but I think a calm state of mind is the best, most effective reward, but that's just my opinion (See Cesar Millan http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/). Do this everyday - a few times everyday. After exercise is the best time for them as they are in their most receptive state of mind then. As dog improves, up the challenge. Take her to places where there are distractions, get a longer rope. Start calling her when she is not in a sit, but when she is walking around or sniffing stuff. Once she's getting good - don't rush it!! - do it with no rope, but stay close again and slowly work up to more distance and more distractions. Good luck!!

[konadog]

I feel I must add a note of caution to this thread to any dog owners out there that thought they might give a bit of antler to their dog... Kona busted a tooth the other day while gnawing his. Rats, it's really expensive to get it removed (no cleaning while under required though!) and he will be short one. The vet said no chewing bones either?! - But what to clean his teeth with? Ah well, maybe I'll try boiling the antler first to soften it up

[Jaz]

Kona,

I wouldn't be too worried about busted teeth, as long as the dog is still happy! We had a great golden retriever as a family pet, and she was one of us like Kona is to you, but she had this strange habit of barking, pawing and biting at rocks that were bigger than she could pick up. When she was younger, we'd be able to leave her to it for hours at a time, as long as she figured someone was watching! Anyhoo, due to this habit, she had many a chipped tooth, but still loved life and had no issue with any sort of food...! Funniest thing was when she tried to sniff the rocks out when they were under water...

Actually, that reminds me of a cat we had that had NO teeth, but still happily crunched up dry food... but that's another story