Pajero weight????

[flyfishn]

I hope to purchase a Delica in the fll, so I am eating up all the info I can from this awesome website. I am in North Van and I am always seeing Falco's Deli and now I have spotted a blue/white one.

My question is, I also like the LWB Pajero's. As I have 3 kids from infant to a 7 year old, I need a 7 seater. I noticed the Pajero has shoulder belts in the very rear seat, which my son would just love.

Sorry back to my question, it (Pajero) seems awfully heavy. How does it go. Is it a real pig on gas. I have read here the Deli gets around 400-500 k per tank (thought not sure of the cost to fill one up) but can anyone tell me what it cost to fill a LWB Pajero and how many K's to a tank.
I don't think the shorty Pajero would accomodate an infantseat, 5 point seat and a booster.

Thanks
James

[jessef]

Hi James,

I've owned both a LWB Pajero and a few Delica's.

92 Pajero LWB

Wheelbase 2,725 mm
Length 4,705 mm
Width 1,695 mm
Height 1,875 mm
Fuel capacity 92 L
Gross weight 2645 kg

92 Delica SWB

Wheelbase 2,240 mm
Length 4,365 mm
Width 1,695 mm
Height 1,845 mm
Fuel capacity 75 L
Gross weight 2260 kg

The sole reason we currently have a Delica instead of a Pajero is because we are planning an expedition long distance trip and need the space (also camping/sleeping inside).

If we weren't, then we would still own our first JDM, a nice Pajero.

I know it's not what the Delica guys n' gals want to hear, but I adored our Pajero.

It got better gas mileage. 9,6 L/100km with a full load, roof rack around town/highway mix.

Pajero's have a few things that our Delica's don't have:

-longer wheelbase/vehicle length = feels more stable in stock form
-dual climate air/con front/rear
-side/foldable rear jump seats with shoulder belts
l-arger fuel tank
-huge moon roof
-Adjustable suspension.
-SuperSelect 4x4 (Full time 4WD or p/t 4X4 shift on the fly) Basically a Subaru and a Landcruiser in one.
-Digital compass/thermometer
-Hydraulic adjustable driver/passenger seats (most comfy I've ever sat in)
-Stock intercooler
-4 wheel disc/antilock brakes
-larger axles
-rear factory locking differential

Identical to the Gen II north american Mitsubishi Montero = all parts are interchangeable except for the engine.

The past 15 years, Montero's have been a part of American 4x4's. All of that knowledge, modifying, etc... is applicable to the Pajero's = you can really mod it.

If and when we have a few kids, a Pajero will be in the family guaranteed.

If I was in the market for a Pajero I would pick this one up in Whistler.

$6,100

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/cto/974496619.html

That's a steal.

They are luxury and a rugged 4x4 combined.

My 2 cents.

ps. Eventhough we regret selling the Paj, we still love our Turtle Delica.

[FalcoColumbarius]

Hey James,

I can't really speak for the Pajero but regarding the Delica, in particular, my truck:

The Miss Lil' Bitchi is a Chamonix edition P25 (low roof) and comes with the bench seat instead of the captain's chairs. Being a bench seat configuration, the centre seat back can be set up so it is facing both forward or backward, with seat belts on both sides of the seat. The right hand side of the centre seat is the only side of that seat to have a shoulder belt and that is only for facing forward. The rest are all lap belts and it seats two people. There is an extra, sort of "shot gun" seat that folds up to the centre bench but it has no seat belt at all (but there is always duct tape!). The rear bench seat sits three; shoulder belts on either side and a lap belt in the middle. The bench seats fold into one and other to make a bed but as far as getting a good night's sleep I would use a thin mattress with it ~ I have a Thermarest for that. The "shot gun" seat also folds into the bed.

The van is a short wheel base and therefore requires constant attention whist driving for if you hit a small bump in the road you will be going a new direction, so you don't want to be looking back at the children then. Having said that, the van turns in a small radius and goes anywhere! If you like back roads then this vehicle dances on them, very at home.

The Miss Lil' Bitchi has an automatic transmission, which amongst other things means she has two single fill fuel tanks that hold 75 litres of diesel. Typically driving around the Shore I get roughly eight and an half kilometres to the litre. When I fill up I will often do so at around the 60 litre mark, which will cost me currently fifty bucks with diesel at around 90 cents per litre and my odometer will be reading 500+ kilometres at the time of fill-up. On the highway I do around ten to eleven kilometres to the litre, depending on the highway and what speed I am cruising at. My best economy will be at 95 to 100KPH. The most kilometres I have had on the odometer at fill-up is around 600, highway driving.

She weighs 2,350 kilogrammes, with a relatively empty tank ~ but I have added a couple of mods, 'though they ought not weigh more than 120 pounds.

If you would like you can PM me and we can hook up for coffee and discuss this further and show you the van... smiles.

Falco.

[Golf Cart]

I bought my Delica for 2 reasons

Flyfishing & Kids

I can head straight into the bush from work without having to go home , change vehicles. I can get more pontoon boats inside along with my camping gear. Also. I couldnt get my ATV in the back of a Paj, I can with my Delica

If you have kids and take them camping and the weather gets unfavorable, the Delica is a great area they can keep dry in. Also if mom is running around with kids in tow, she can hop in the back and tend to everyone of them without getting out and going from side to side. My daughter plays in ours all the time, its like her own personal jungle gym.

I was considering a Pajero in the beginning, but it was the fish factor that changed me over to the Delica. I didnt think the Paj would meet my needs if there was more than one person on the trip.

Hope Ive really messed up your decision now. Either way, IMHO, you can't go wrong with either choice.

Cheers......er Fish On !