Speaker size

[Flex]

Does anyone know offhand what size the speakers are in a Deli? I have the two in the dash, two midship, and two at the rear. If anyone knows that'll save me pulling off the panels to look...Thanx

[Green1]

front are 4", mid are 5 1/4" and rear are 4"... the problem is apparently the depth (GOOD speakers have big magnets and may not fit behind the mid or rear panels) I don't however have the depth off hand as I haven't yet tried to fit replacements (though it's coming real soon!)

[docsavage]

The sizes are right. I fit Alpine's in my slots with no problems with depth. There is a fair bit of space for the speakers. I know some speakers are deeper, depending on the shape. I thought the cone material and seperate tweeters made the speakers sound better not the magnet (though bigger magnets may take more power) as some really nice sounding Magnaplanar speakers hang on the wall and are only a 3 inches thick. The material the magnet is made of may have some bearing on size and sound. A 12" subwoofer really fills out the sound, but it does take up a lot of space. With a 1200W sub and no amp off the headunit I have enough volume to shake me out of the La-Z-Boy - although I may still get a couple of amps soon. :D :D

James

[trilobyte650]

4" speakers in the front but watch the mounting depth on the driver's side. I couldn't fit the set of infinity's that I bought because of this. Thankfully the driver's side is easy to check so mount this one first.

5-1/4" speakers in the mid-position. No problem with mounting depth here. Be careful pulling the panels off. Take the rug off the side first and you'll see two (i think) mounting screws for each panel. Then take off the piece with the curtain track. Then you can pop the panels out.

I don't have back speakers! I've got a low-roof. Are these up in the roof on the '92?

Peter.

[Flex]

Yeah the rear speakers are up at the back in the headliner. Thanx for your help guys...I'm gonna make this system pound, so I may have to improvise :lol:

[Green1]

the cone material and separate tweeters made the speakers sound better not the magnet (though bigger magnets may take more power)

you're right... mostly... the magnet helps with the bass, when you see those tiny wall mount speakers they sound great, but they almost always have a separate sub-woofer to make up for the lack of bass, the material and the separation to different speakers for different frequencies is really the part that does the quality, I simplified it by saying that better speakers tend to have bigger magnets, but in truth you can have small ones as long as you do something else to make up the lack of bass.

[torchard]

A quick follow up to this thread: I just installed an 8" 200 watt powered bazooka cannon subwoofer as did someone else on this list a while back. Bought it locally used. It's a handy design and somewhat safe from little fingers. I had swapped the OEM fronts and rears and it sounded ok but nothing to write home about. The Alpine head unit doesn't have any extra power added. I installed it behind the passenger seat. This little unit really fills out the sound and adds much needed bottom end. Also means I can rely more on the smaller fronts and not blast the kids with the rears. I wired it so it can be easily removed for security or when every square inch is required. Very happy. Having said that I may opt for the convenience of two-way rounds in the doors, but will try this for now.

[mararmeisto]

I don't have back speakers! I've got a low-roof. Are these up in the roof on the '92?

Peter.

The year isn't the issue, it's the model: high roof, generally on the Exceeds or Super Exceeds. That being said, because of the situation of the speakers and the depth behind them, I find they give poor quality. It's the old thinking "more will be better" but the acoustics of the inside of these boxes doesn't lend to that being the case.

If you look at a lot of new high-end cars, they can have upwards of ½ dozen speakers (sometimes as many as 10 or 12!), but these are many small speakers, strategically placed throughout the vehicle to give a 'coherent' sound to the output of the audio system. Also, the materials in the contents of the vehicle are now much more acoustically balanced than previously, neither being too absorbent nor overly reflective of the sound being transmitted.

[Mystery Machine]

The rear roof mount speakers only came as part of the 'Audio Stage' package which was standard on the S/Exceed (along with the second 'slave' unit built into the panel next to the rear AC controls) If a non-S/Exceed has this set-up fitted then the owner will have installed it himself after removing it from a Super because it only came in this model. Retro-fitting isn't too difficult, the wiring loom is an easy fit, the slave unit bolts straight in and the rear speakers take about 10 mins of cutting on the head lining to make room for the mounting brackets.

How do I know this? I ripped one out of a Super I was breaking (parting out?) and fitted it to my mates Exceed.

Regarding the quality of speakers, in the era of the L300's, Japanese manufacturers didn't bother with fitting decent units because they knew that anyone interested in good sound would rip them out and install their own system....and anyone not too bothered would happily live with the crap speakers that came with the vehicle.

You have to remember that these motors were derived from a van - not a 'from the ground up' people carrier, so the location of the front speakers was purely to give 'some' sound for a builder/delivery driver etc...and the rear ones were cobbled in there when they designed the rear to carry people.

When I ever get arount to installing a system in the Mystery Machine, I'll be ditching the 4" fronts, fitting 5-1/4" components in the middle section of the door with the tweeters on the dash.

The rear will have 6" components in the existing speaker housing with the tweeters up in the rear roof speakers. 2 x 6" bass tubes running parallel slid under the rear seat (perfect fit and 20secs to remove) and this should give a nice balanced sound in quite a large open space.

When this will happen is anyones guess?? But I know it will sound a lot better than the current system!

For now I just put up with the poor sound because there are bigger and more challenging project to think about!