L300 Stretch updates

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thedjjack wrote:Tremclad and a paint roller 6-8 coats.

$50.00 and your done. Tough, looks good (good enough), and easy to touch up!
That is more or less what I decided on for mine.

But I think Super Exceeded is more of a show vehicle and a professional paint job is suitable.
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RichD wrote: That's one opinion. Here's what several body shops told me, and I was also able to confirm online:....
Confirmation online: Wikipedia recognise very few websites as sources... there's a reason for that. If I go to Fred Bloggs Paint website it is going to tell me all the technological & advanced reasons why their paint is better that the other ones. And the more money you put into the ad campaign the more believable it becomes. Some companies buy up whole pages of newspaper and do a layout of articles, complete with advertisements, to make it look like the news when really it's just a great big ad informing you that their's is the product you must purchase, which is why the paper puts "Advertisement" in smaller letters at the top of the page, which not everyone notices.

Why do you think metallics are more expensive? Because they use metal (earth components). Your average single stage automotive paint uses maybe titanium or zinc oxide but the rest are lakes. They are a liquid dye with little or no binding characteristics (in themselves) ~ it's a form of trade off ~ pretty colour but slightly less integrity. In the case of base/clear the colour is in the base, which allows the clear more solids, which is much stronger. The benefit is that it's like a magnifying glass and gives it depth. The drawback is it's like a magnifying glass, it shows everything, especially with dark colours. So if a scratch gets into the clear you are more likely to see it but the body is still covered ~ and you can see what needs to be addressed. It stands to reason. Also if your clear is over a metallic base then the scratch is less likely to disturb the metallic pattern. There are less layers of paint on a conventional single stage paint job. Think about it.

As far as touching up clear, that's straight forward ~ you have to sand and cut polish. And typically one should never just do one panel, it would look different to the panels around it it would stand out. Traditionally one should paint into the next panel and cut polish, unless it's on a different plane, then you have the benefit of the angle or if something like a rocker panel is interrupting it, or trim. One thing with clear is if there is a pearl in the clear coat. If it's been damaged then you might notice the pattern change in the light.
RichD wrote:Urethane single-stage is commonly used for automotive body work. It is comprised of pigment, a binder and a carrier agent.

Single stage is comprised of more than that. I am presuming that by "binder" you are referring to the hardener, which in itself is comprised of lots of stuff... Come on Rich ~ that's like saying all there is to a ship is a hull, a mast and some water...

As far as that link concerned: They are telling you that you have to prep for the job, which is true, in fact I would say that prep is about eighty percent of the job. But you have to do that with any paint, not just Endura.

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FalcoColumbarius wrote:Why do you think metallics are more expensive?
I know why. Labor. I have written quotes comparing the different processes.
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RichD wrote:
FalcoColumbarius wrote:Why do you think metallics are more expensive?
I know why. Labor. I have written quotes comparing the different processes.
I was referring to the product at the supplier, not the service at the shop.... but good point.

So SE, will this paint job be the conventional single stage or base/clear?
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FalcoColumbarius wrote:Why do you think metallics are more expensive?
RichD wrote:I know why. Labor. I have written quotes comparing the different processes.
I was referring to the product at the supplier, not the service at the shop.... but good point.
Material cost is something like 5% of the estimate.
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todays highlights, Friday night is gunna be tight,

Cut fender wells bigger, and with a technique I did not know exsisted we plastic welded the front body trim (after mods) back together, Too cool!
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well, the primer is on. The rush for Friday night @ Ikea is on. Might I add taking off the doors was quite an adventure.....
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Have you done your Class1 to drive that yet?

looking good!
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I'm going on friday just to see this thing ! :-D
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First coat of white on tonight, May be fashionably late tomorrow, (But still planning on attending) and I can tell you that she'll be running bare!
And before you all ask why she's not in the paint booth, well she's too tall. It's also why she's back on her original tires. For those of you tring to figure out exactly what's up with the side door, well picture three should be a clue.
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I can't get off the island in time today to make it to IKEA for the Delica meet tonight. The main reason I wanted to go was to see Super Exceeded / Stretch. I hope I can see Stretch in the near future when you have this project completed and before you venture off on your world tour.
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I'm in awe of this project you are doing. As mentioned earlier in the posts the sliding door will be a suprise. If it is the gull wing door as some have suggested I envisioned an air-stair type door as well. With Stretch anything is possible. I'm excited to see the finished product.
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That would be a cool idea....
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A shame you couldn't make it out to the meet.
We were already talking about a camping trip in mid January, so maybe she will be done by then.

I think I found her brother. 8-)
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Island Hopper wrote:I'm in awe of this project you are doing. As mentioned earlier in the posts the sliding door will be a suprise. If it is the gull wing door as some have suggested I envisioned an air-stair type door as well. With Stretch anything is possible. I'm excited to see the finished product.
And to whom have you been speaking too?
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