Manual hub benefits.

[Firesong]

My hubs basically are there to tell me im stuck
in 2 WD and need to lock them up :) Then I am
REALLY aware that if I get stuck again I will need
to make an embarassing call to someone :)

I haven't noticed any difference in Fuel Econ going
from auto to manual hubs. I didn't expect any though.

I just want to eliminate the issues I was having in deep
snow and such. (But Im not getting into that) :)

I like'm
Although my wife doesn't like trying to turn the dial to
lock or unlock.

FS

[jessef]

if un locked, then ur wheels dont turn ur cv shafts,ur cv shafts dont turn ur ring gear,ur ring gear doesnt turn ur pinion gear-which is attached to ur front drive shaft.

while this may apply to part-time 4WD vehicles, it does not apply to the L400/Pajero running gear.

Grab the front driveshaft and have someone spin any one or both of the front wheels. They all rotate freely in any direction unless you are engaged in 4H (allwheel drive more) or 4HLc (part time 4WD high) or 4HLlc (part time 4WD low)

[Adam]

OK, Jesse, just say it. When would I ever unlock my hubs, why wouldn't I just keep them locked all the time. Is there a gearing situation where it is advantageous to have unlocked hubs yet be driving in 4H or 4L?

[mac_stang]

sorry jessie...been there done that, the open dif causes a reversal on the opposite wheel(standard open dif orientation) but i know first hand the only thing separated is the transfercase from the front half driveline(auto hubs would let the front axle freewheel though)
if u really want to test ur theory...lift up one side(front) and try to spin the wheel...wont do it.(i did that too)

Brad.

[Mr. Flibble]

I know that this is an old thread and all, but I am now curious. I would test this myself if I had the time - but I am being sent to Texas on Business... :p

If I jacked up the back of my L400, and put the back on Jackstands so that the rear wheels are just an inch off the ground, and I am in 2WD, then I switch to AWD, 4WD or 4WD Lo... Will the L400 drive off of the Jackstands in any of those configurations? Or, is rolling resistance in the front required?

I have noticed that whenever I turn on AWD, it takes some distance traveled for the AWD to engage - and the same for the centre diff to lock when going to 4WD.

I think this would be a pretty valuable test in determining whether an L400 needs manual hubs or not.

[prairiefire]

Bringing back an old thread. I'm wondering if anyone is still running manual hubs on L400's. I had some on only to go back to auto hubs. I had problems unlocking my manual hubs. Now I have a 2" lift and I've tore one inner cv boot and the other inner has popped off twice. I'm wondering if this could be caused by my auto hubs or the lift(increased angle to the cv joints). Would going back to manuals be better? Any thoughts? I do like shifting to 4WD on the fly though.

[jessef]

going to manual's would prevent the cv's from turning thus extending your cv/boot's life considerably

with the lift you have a slight more angle than stock but not enough to be tearing through boots. old boots have a habit of drying up, popping off and tearing easily. or even new one's if they weren't greased up enough inside (I push the grease with fingers up in the ribs - area most likely to crack).

[konadog]

I love my manual hubs, though they are Superwinch and I'd like to get better ones (the aluminum caps tend to seize on :( ) - anyone know where I can get a set of the Asian ones...?

[Rising Sun Auto Import]

I love my manual hubs, though they are Superwinch and I'd like to get better ones (the aluminum caps tend to seize on :( ) - anyone know where I can get a set of the Asian ones...?

Are you looking for Aisin manual hub from Japan?

Steven

[jessef]

anyone know where I can get a set of the Asian ones...?

Which Asian one's ? They all come from Asia !

You have a few selections

Superwinch
AVM
Aisin copies
Dodge D50/Ram Aisin originals

Aisin stopped producing manual hubs over 5 years ago. What you see now are copies. The casting was sold to manufacturers in Asia. You can see them come from different countries.

You can tell the original from the copies by a vertical stamping on the outer ring gear. The Dodge D50's have them (one's with manual Aisin hubs from the factory).

The copies I've seen are as good as the originals, however the price is not. They are marked up to outer space.

http://www.delica.ca/forum/looking-for- ... 65-15.html

AVM hubs are as good as Superwinches but different casing. Average cost between $130 - 170 online retail.

Don't waste your money on copies that cost 2-3 times as much that give the same function.

AVM hubs are better lasting than superwinches and now are more widely available.

Part # 15001.43 AVM

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RGG-1500143/

[konadog]

I like the ones in Felix's picture. The Superwinch look-a-likes are going to have the same issue with the tiny allen key bolts that hold the aluminum cap on freezing in place. Anyone up for a group order of these ones - and does anyone know who the supplier is...?

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[jessef]

post a wanted ad or pm lunasea. He's got a few real genuine Dodge Aisin's
There is at least 2 from the last group buy that went back to superwinches

[konadog]

Thanks - Interesting that people went back to the S.W.... Did the others fail? I remember after oil had an issue but thought that ended up that the bolts were just a little loose.
In the meantime I'll get at those superwinches with a dental pick and see if I can't break those little allen bolts free. Any ideas for anything else I might add to the attempt - penetrating oil, C.L.R., etc.?

[Rising Sun Auto Import]

anyone know where I can get a set of the Asian ones...?

Superwinch
AVM
Aisin copies
Dodge D50/Ram Aisin originals

Aisin stopped producing manual hubs over 5 years ago. What you see now are copies. The casting was sold to manufacturers in Asia. You can see them come from different countries.

You can tell the original from the copies by a vertical stamping on the outer ring gear. The Dodge D50's have them (one's with manual Aisin hubs from the factory).

The copies I've seen are as good as the originals, however the price is not. They are marked up to outer space.

http://www.delica.ca/forum/looking-for- ... 65-15.html

AVM hubs are as good as Superwinches but different casing. Average cost between $130 - 170 online retail.

Don't waste your money on copies that cost 2-3 times as much that give the same function.

AVM hubs are better lasting than superwinches and now are more widely available.

Part # 15001.43 AVM

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RGG-1500143/

Partially not true in the quoted thread. We still can see original ones.

Hyundai regularly imported Aisin genuine free wheel hubs to Korea market and still have a few hundreds in stock from my source.
We can bring them anytime and group buy is welcome.
Don’t go for Aisin copies as they are really bad.
We have 4 units of Aisin ( made in Japan ) original in stock.
http://www.delica.ca/trader/item/119

Steven

**Anyone wants to see in person, pls visit my shop.

[jessef]

here's the best way to crack them loose

Penetrating fluid a few squirts a day before

Allen socket (not an Allen wrench) so you can lightly tap tap tap it with a hammer to jiggle the threads. Then crack it open.