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Accessory Batery Plans... pls dont let me burn down my deli

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These are the plans of an inexperienced electrician please comment so that I don’t burn down my delica :shock: ...

I am looking to power a heater; a boot dryer; lighting; stereo; a small fridge or electric cooler; charging a camera, phone and possibly a lap top, not all at once but there may be times when more than one of these are running. I only want to do this once and I want to do it right the first time.

I intend to purchase a National Luna split charger kit; the manual can be found here http://www.nationalluna.com/Datasheets/ ... manual.pdf . I have altered their install instructions slightly by adding an Anderson plug between the two batteries to make for easy removability and portability.

The intelligent solenoid will be mounted under the hood. I want to mount the accessory battery (AGM) along with the fuse box, a couple 12 v plugs and possibly an inverter all into one box to create a portable power pack. Am I crazy or might this work? Should I just skip the work and buy a National Luna Portable Power Pack (http://www.nationalluna.com/PPPack.htm) or can I save money and do it on my own? Has anyone used National Luna gear?
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Some specific questions…

Where is the best place to wire into the cabin, I plan to have the battery pack mounted behind the driver seat with the Anderson plug coming out of the wall below the ashtray. Do I go under the van and up behind the seat or through the firewall into the cabin and under the carpet?

Is there any issue putting the Anderson plugs between the two batteries?

Do I need the fuse box after the accessory battery? If I plan on powering multiple items or are the fuses behind the battery enough protection? And without the fuse box how would I go about distributing the power?

Where should the inverter be wired, before or after the fuse box?

What inverter should I buy? From reading it seems like “pure sine wave” is the way to go but what specs should I look for?

Any suggestions for an AGM battery? What size should I get for running the previously mentioned accessories?

Thank you for any input.
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Re: Accessory Batery Plans... pls dont let me burn down my d

Post by jessef »

I had this done on Turtle (L300) with the National Luna kit.

I went with the battery isolator and the dual battery monitor. The rest of the cabling/connectors I bought locally.

http://www.nationalluna.com/intelsol.htm
http://www.nationalluna.com/dualmon.htm

Jay (tardisdeli) did the install while I watched and fed him hamburgers and pepsi.

NL solenoid installed in the engine bay on the firewall.
Aux battery installed in box behind the engine hump/driver's seat
1.5" hole (holesaw) through engine hump bulkhead at the aux battery location
Routed 2gauge battery cable from main battery to NL solenoid to aux battery including 2gauge ground wire
Routed 10gauge power wire from aux battery through side panel on the driver's side van to rear for dual marine cig lighter plugs

Did not but had planned to route anderson plug behind engine hump/passenger seat so jump starting another vehicle would not involve lifting up the engine hatch.

Your diagram is perfect. That is how Jay wired mine minus the inverter but that's correct on yours.

Another well documented and applicable example is by Felix (aka. Fexlboi) http://www.delica.ca/forum/members/fexlboi-1617.html He would be the best to talk to about this as his is a daily working unit but he left this forum due to managment issues forcing him out of the forum. Fortunately, most of his postings are still available to view on this forum. You just have to search a bit.

He used the IBS system but it's similar to the National Nuna smart solenoid sys as well.

Link here : http://dinoevo.de/2010/06/dual-battery-system/

The National Luna system is very well thought out. I'm going to be doing the same (as in your diagram) install on my new JDM rig.
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Re: Accessory Batery Plans... pls dont let me burn down my d

Post by TardisDeli »

First question ,How many Watts invertor do you need ,if your running a microwave oven like us you will need at least a 1000 Watt invertor. If you are running a big ass invertor like that then you will need a 300 Amp. fuse for it, and no you can't buy AGC or ATC fuses that big. So no you can't run the invertor from your fuse panel. The Anderson plugs are fine for this purpose as long as you use the two gauge model .O buy the way Rich D discoverd that the the Princess Auto version is slightly different than the orginal brand and they won't connect together. Now on whether to get a true sine wave invertor or a modified sine wave invertor depends on what you are powering. Some things don't like modified vsine wave but you won't know untill you try various items to try .But i've notice the prices have dropped a lot lately i've seen them at Canadian tire for almost the same price as a modified sine wave invertor. Hope this helps or are you going into information overload? Cheers Jay TardisDeli
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