Alcohol-water injection for Turbo diesels Good cheap HP/TQ

[Profister]

According to the info on the website the mentioned above kit comes with 2gph and 3gph nozzles which are D02 and D03. Is there any way to change them to D01 and D02 as recommended while ordering online?

[guamdoc]

As mentioned before you can make a note in the order comment section. This tells us of any special needs or changes to the kit the customer might need like nozzle sizes and it will be changed to those sizes. It also appears on your invoice as well.

[delicat]

So you're saying the basic kit already comes with the dual nozzles? I missed that!

Edited...

Just went over the site, indeed comes with two nozzles. Guamdoc got me confused when he said if he'd spend extra money he'd get the two nozzles upgrade... Seems like this basic kits already has them.

[Profister]

Guamdoc wrote:

When you get to the screen to enter put 4D56 and hit redeem. It's for 10%

This is what I got: Invalid Coupon Code

[delicat]

Guamdoc, last 2 questions...for now

1) Where exactly should we mount the 2 nozzles on these non-intercooled engines? On the forum it's not clear as they suggest one location to later say that it's actually not ideal (ie. pre/post turbo...). So, where?

2) With normal city driving, how long would a 4 litres/1 gallons mix last before needing to be re-filled? I need to know what is the running cost associated with this system...

Thanks again,
David

[guamdoc]

Guamdoc wrote:

When you get to the screen to enter put 4D56 and hit redeem. It's for 10%

This is what I got: Invalid Coupon Code

Fixed it, Looks like I named the coupon 4D56 and the code was Delica , The 4D56 will work now.

[guamdoc]

Guamdoc, last 2 questions...for now

1) Where exactly should we mount the 2 nozzles on these non-intercooled engines? On the forum it's not clear as they suggest one location to later say that it's actually not ideal (ie. pre/post turbo...). So, where?

2) With normal city driving, how long would a 4 litres/1 gallons mix last before needing to be re-filled? I need to know what is the running cost associated with this system...

Thanks again,
David

Here is a example on a toyota engine. One goes right before the intake and the other right before the turbo when your doing a dual nozzle system. You will get a huge gain in this especially with no intercooler.




Usage depends on your setpoint of your vehicle, a 1gph nozzle does not use that much but if your at the set point for a hour then you will use 1gallon. Alcohol can be had in many forms. Windshield washer fluid is among the cheapest, the cheap blue winter blends work awsome.


Then you have rubbing alcohol which is also dirt cheap in just about any store. You really only need around 25% alcohol for -28C and below weather. You'll see good power with 10% to 15% alcohol for daily use. Our kits are nickel plated brass so you can basically run tap water if you wanted to. Just check the filter about 1 time every 6 months and clean. You can also use denatured alcohol/ ethyl alcohol as well, if you know of a distiller you can get it for a good price. Heck you can literally pour vodka in the system and will work the same. So whatever source of alcohol is the easiest and cheapest for you to get will determine your total cost. Nothing gets to much cheaper than water. You can also put in a toggle switch to turn the system on and off when you don't want or need to use it.

[Meanman]

I noticed while looking at the kit that it comes with 2 nozzles but I didn't notice a splitter to run both nozzles at the same time. Is this an upgrade or did I simply miss it? Also to confirm for our small engine, what nozzles are best suited in either a single nozzle application or a dual nozzle application?

[fexlboi]

So you're saying the basic kit already comes with the dual nozzles? I missed that!
Edited...
Just went over the site, indeed comes with two nozzles. Guamdoc got me confused when he said if he'd spend extra money he'd get the two nozzles upgrade... Seems like this basic kits already has them.

As far as I see it you still need the upgrade kit to use two nozzles at the same time. The basic kit comes just with two different nozzles sizes, but without a splitter to use them at the same time. Right?

I don't know which material our intakes are, but do we need this Mounting Adapter?
How about the 220 PSI Pump is it worth the upgrade for our engines?

[delicat]

Looking at price to run this system...

Lordo prices on a account.
205 litres of -35 or -40 windshield washer: $140
205 litres of Methanol Hydrate: $445

So if this system use around 1 gph at full pressure then it would become pricey to run. It would be a good idea to install a switch to turn it on or off as needed. As Profister mentioned, it would be greatly helpful going uphill on the hwy. I'm sure city driving would be more enjoyable too.

The extra power is neat but I'm just as much interested with the cleaning aspect as I'm running veggie in my van and that should prove helpful in the long run. I won't bother to buy their tanks, too pricey. Just use a regular jerrycan or whatever, get one of their self sealing bulk head to tap in the jerrycan and connect the hose as well as a float switch so I don't end up running the system empty. Also need to check if the nozzles connect to metal or rubber hose. All that with the on/off switch and it should work great for my needs.

4 of us now...

[guamdoc]

The psi of the pump is not the output of the pump, that is determined by nozzle size. The 150psi is just the kind of pressure switch it comes with. That pump can support 600hp with 2 14gph nozzles so it's overkill for you to upgrade. The pressure switch does cycle on and off you will see around a 10psi to 15psi flux. All pumps will do this.

This is how the pumps work.

Test conducted with a snubbed 3" Glycerin-Filled Gauge with NIST Certificate. Keeps things nice and smooth with no guessing on accuracy.

12-30VDC Power supply at 13.25 volts. All numbers rounded down to the nearest multiple of 5.

M2 230psi
M3 225psi
M4 215psi
M5 190psi
M7 180psi
M10 170psi
M12 Not tested
M14 155 psi

This is closer to what the nozzle put out, But it depends on voltage output of your vehicle.
M1 235psi = 1.8GPH
M2 230psi = 2.9GPH
M3 225psi = 4.2GPH
M4 215psi = 5.5GPH
M5 190psi = 6.7GPH
M7 180psi = 9.0GPH
M10 170psi = 12.5GPH

This is why a 1gph nozzle is what you want to start off with, it's because it's flow is closer to 2gph with our pump.

[guamdoc]

The nozzle will connect to either metal , rubber or plastic tubing, But if your tubing is more than 1/4" thick and rubber and cannot be tapped for the nozzle to screw you should get the soft pipe adapter.


Like I said before you can use just about anything for a tank, One cool one is the plastic military style jerry cans. Or any poly style tank like the gas cans you find in the autoparts store, they have blue ones as well.

Kits come with a tank tap as well. The new self sealing ones will be standard with every kit after March 1st when the price change hits.

[delicat]

Guamdoc,

We're just about ready to place our order but this question remains unanswered:

fexlboi wrote:
"As far as I see it you still need the upgrade kit to use two nozzles at the same time. The basic kit comes just with two different nozzles sizes, but without a splitter to use them at the same time. Right?"

So Guamdoc, do we need the 2 nozzles upgrade or is it included in the basic kit?

Thanks
David

[fexlboi]

Here's one just for you guys, It's good for 10 days. When you get to the screen to enter put 4D56 and hit redeem. It's for 10%

Thanks for that, but how about a little bit more off if we order at least 4 sets + upgrades at once? Also it looks like we are the guinea pigs in our community who would spread good words about your system if we are satisfied with it.

[guamdoc]

Guamdoc,

We're just about ready to place our order but this question remains unanswered:

fexlboi wrote:
"As far as I see it you still need the upgrade kit to use two nozzles at the same time. The basic kit comes just with two different nozzles sizes, but without a splitter to use them at the same time. Right?"

So Guamdoc, do we need the 2 nozzles upgrade or is it included in the basic kit?

Thanks
David

The kits come with 2 nozzle and a nozzle holder with checkvalve which is one assembly, The dual nozzle upgrade converts the checkvale to be run before the spliter and adds a nozzle assembly along with 3' more hose.


I have also adjusted the coupon for 15% off for the first 5 orders. Now that's a good chunck of change off 33USD. After 5 uses of the coupon it will go back to 10% until the 24th of Feb. The 15% off pays for the dual nozzle upgrade

If your going to remote mount a tank in the back of the van, I will suggest you order 5' of extra hose so your not short. The kit comes wit 15'.

If you do go with the dual nozzle set up request 2 (DO1) Nozzles this is the combo that works on your engine anymore you'll loose power if not running alcohol. If your getting the regular kit just request a D01 and D02 nozzles.