Clutch kit compatibility

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Clutch kit compatibility

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The clutch on my pajero V24 SWB recently went down the toilet. I've done some searching around but, information is very vague. She's my only vehicle and I am in a bind to get er' fixed ASAP. Does anybody have any knowledge on compatibility between l300 and pajero v24 clutch kits?
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Depends whether it has a dual-mass flywheel or not. May not be the clutch that has gone as the flywheels give a clutch `slip` feel. Conversion kits are available to convert to solid flywheel and prevent problems in the future.
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For now, let's say it has a solid flywheel. I'm hoping that possibly the montero or l300 will share the same clutch/pressure plate/TO bearing assembly. With the inspection cover off are there any dead give away identifiers of a dual-mass flywheel?
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I can`t remember off hand but I think that the L300 clutch is the same for the solid flywheel. There is no dead giveaway except pulling out the transmission, removing the flywheel and looking !!
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I've sent off my model and chassis number's to a few shops both domestic and in the U.K.

Maybe an explanation of the symptoms may be a determiner:
A few weeks ago I needed to do some 4LO work out in the mud hole on the farm. Needed some higher than normal revving to prevent stalling from stop to go. No signs of damage and the truck drove fine up until recently.
1. Two days ago, I had to do some fairly steep and long hill climbing to get out of a local fishing area. This was done on a stock organic clutch with 140,000kms in 2wd.
2. Following our escape, I noticed the truck had extremely poor acceleration on the highway. I would give it gas in any gear and it seemed to free rev. If I delicately eased into the accelerator then I could slowly pick up speed. No smell of burning clutch but, it was a windy day at highway speeds
3. The next day I noticed the same issue while on my way to the university. This time when I began climbing the river bottom hill the truck keep decelerating no matter what gear or how much accelerator I gave it. Barely made it to the top of the hill and noticed the smell of burning clutch. Pulled over and let it cool and then proceeded that last km or 2.
4. The truck still drives but, will not take any inclines.
5. From stop to start feels very abnormal. The truck will take off and feels like driving an auto through first gear. It's extremely smooth and you can't feel the clutch engaging through the pedal. There is not shuddering as indicated by heavily slipping clutch
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Does it only slip when the vehicle is hot or all the time ?? If it only slips when hot it is maybe just a `free play` adjustment of the clutch pedal. If it is all the time then I would suggest your clutch is done. Dual mass failure feels like a slipping clutch but you do not get the usual burning smell. If you are getting that smell it again points to the clutch.
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I notice the "free revving" type acceleration both when the truck is cold and warm. Although, the only time that I notice any clutch smell is when I am carrying on up hill and that is accompanied by rapid loss of speed and increase in rpms.

*Are there any other symptoms I should be looking for that would separate a failing clutch from a damaged dual-mass flywheel?*
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you have a worn clutch for sure no other info symptoms needed. If it slips hot or cold and gives clutch smell, next stage is to replace the clutch. Would still recommend changing the flywheel if it is a dual mass unit. These do tend to fail and it would be really bad to put a new clutch in then have the dual mass fail and have to replace it all again.
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Sorry to hear that and strange at the same time.
I know that Pajero clutch is very solid, some owner reported that life of clutch is equal to life of the truck...

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Just finished crawling under the truck and taking a peek behind the inspection plate. Did a lap around the block beforehand and there is differently a strong clutch odour coming from behind the plate. Tried putting the truck into first gear and starting it with the e-brake on. Didn't lurch and stall but, rolled forward slightly then stopped and kept idling. I would say thats a sure fire sign that the clutch is slipping. While under there I took the time to inspect what could be seen of the flywheel. The only distinguishable markings I could find were a "K1" and a "KC" at 12 and 6 o'clock from each other on the side of the wheel that faces the block.

For piece of mind, I am going to order a replacement kit w/ solid flywheel from milners U.K. If it turns out there is already a solid wheel in there then I will throw the new one up for sale. I'm sure someone could benefit from it.
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all v24 and v44 are dual mass flywheel.
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