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As some of you might know I have a dual bypass filtering system BMK-23 from Amsoil installed in January and using Amsoil Heavy Duty Synthetic 15W40 oil. The idea was to reduce the number of oil changes which I had to do every 2 month with the stock equipment. Being concerned about the way this advanced filtering system works in real life I decided to spend a few bucks ($25 per test) monitoring the oil degradation process until I know how often I have to change it. I have done 2 tests at 10,000 km and at 15,000 km and this is how the results look like: It is interesting to see that the oil viscosity does not change and remains within the specs but the amount of soot goes up which makes me wonder how good the fine filter is. According to Amsoil this filter should be good for 60,000 miles.
I would like to see more reports from other fellows using bypass filters for comparison. Let's keep this thread open to share the experience.

It would also be interesting to compare to regular oil and filter changes to give you a perspective.

Great idea. I was planing to do the first oil test with our Trabold filter system after 10k km as well. Still have a couple thousand km more to go though. David's sumo truck with the same system should be ready for an oil analysis by now.

The logo says it all - Finning.

tryin this attachment from my oil analysis..

Here's my result on my 1st 10,000km with the Trabold bypass filter. Seems like pretty generic comments, only difference is you have slightly elevated sooth while I have moderately elevated sooth level. My numbers are higher in most parts, lower in some but I need to figure what they all indicate because now they are only numbers without reference...
Cheers.

It is interesting that both of you are seeing elevated soot levels with the bypass filters installed since soot removal is the primary item these filters claim to remove and why oil change intervals can be greatly increased. Soot is one of if not teh most damaging contaminent in diesel oil. I have been running a Jackmaster toilet paper type bypass filter in my hilux surf for the past ~2 years. I have never had an analysis done but extended my oil changes to 2-3x normal (ie 10000-15000km) thinking that was well within safety limits of teh recommended change intervals. Your results are making me a little nervous that all the glowing reviews are just a placebo effect so perhaps I will get an analysis and post results. Different vehicles but with a bypass we should be seeing reduced levels of soot in our oil/km than normally expected at a given km.

I'm running mostly on wvo so that might have an impact on my results as they often recommend to do oil change at 3000km instead of the regular 5000km if running on wvo. I've sent a copy of my results the the NorthAmerican distributor for Trabold, we'll see what they have to say. One thing that I really appreciate from them is that they still send me emails to see how my system is doing, you don't see that from large company!

I started installing back my water/meth injection system to deal with this exact issue. The water/meth is well known to keep your engine really clean so it will be interesting to see the results once it's set back up.

Cheers.

We do oil analysis alot on the transit buses, don't get down on only 2 readings you want to watch the trends, mainly watch aluminum, copper, lead, iron. Lots of iron usually indicates gear wear/cylinder wall. Lead/copper indicates main bearing/cam bearing wear. Aluminum can indicate two things first it is main bearing wear, second is piston skirt wear.

I am also interested in the remote filters system but not to increase the interval but just to have more oil to keep the system more stable with a possibility of adding an engine oil cooler
Like these:
http://www.jegs.com/i/Derale/259/15718/10002/-1
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS-Performance- ... 0/10002/-1

Dustin

you should already have an oil cooler on your van.........

madmazda wrote:you should already have an oil cooler on your van.........

I do know that I am just considering adding another on with the remote to help engine oil life and engine cooling

Dustin

That's easy anything larger than 10 microns in caught by the standard filter first this will plug it over time, then allowing unfiltered oil past into the bearings. The fact the standard filter filters all oil first before it reaches the bearings where as the trabold filters only part of the oil and only after it has already past thru the bearings. Like I said before I believe this system is a good additional filter but to not change your standard filer is a huge mistake.
One of the additives in diesel oil that gasoline does not have is soot disspersent this prevents soot from clumping into larger particles most soot is about 3 microns but they can clump up to a 10-15 micro size as the soot disspersancy additive breaks down.
I can see you are believer in this system but i don't believe in the extended service intervals you are boasting without changing the OEM filter

Just one thing I have read on this

http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Rea ... oil-engine

Dustin

It looks like this thread should have been split from Sept.13/11 on, (with the sales pitch from Uli being the first post in the newly created "Trabold Filters" thread), not where it was eventually split. But anyway, does anyone have any more results? I'm curious about these bypass systems and would like to see some more data. Did everyone give up once the thread was hijacked?

Thanks!

ezzy wrote:It looks like this thread should have been split from Sept.13/11 on, (with the sales pitch from Uli being the first post in the newly created "Trabold Filters" thread), not where it was eventually split. But anyway, does anyone have any more results? I'm curious about these bypass systems and would like to see some more data. Did everyone give up once the thread was hijacked?

Thanks!

Thanks for pointing that out, Ezzy, not sure how that didn't get moved but there you are, it's been moved now. I appreciate the community spirit... smiles.

Falco.

Just got back my first oil sample results after switching to Synthetic oil and adding a Frantz bypass filter.

Even though the result recommended to leave the oil and just sample at the next interval, I changed my oil anyway just to get a baseline result. This oil had just over 11,000 Kms on it and he said it still looked GREAT. To me, this justifies 100 times over, the cost and pain of installing the bypass oil filter being well worth it. I LOVE my toilet paper filter.

I also had a good discussion with an oil analysist who went over the results with me and told me what to look for and what all the numbers mean. If you guys have any questions I can do my best at regurgitating the info I have.