Brake sticking

[nxski]

For those of you at the CVI appreciation meet you will recall that butch mentioned this as a common problem on the l300's. I though this might be the case with mine because it was pulling right while driving at any speed, it jerks even further right under braking and I have recently had the wheels aligned and had the rims balanced. I did as burg suggested and tried rotating the wheels while on jack stands. It turns out that both wheels make a scraping sound while rotating so I assume the pads are rubbing constantly.
How easy of a fix is this. Unfortunately I'm only free weekends to take it in to CVI and they aren't open on the weekend. I leave for an offroad trip July long weekend and I don't want to drive it much like this.
Thanks

[jessef]

You can take your Delica anywhere to get the brakes done.

Just tell the shop it's a 1988 Mitsubishi Montero (north american model).

Scraping is usually pads worn down that it's close/at metal on metal on the rotors. You may need new rotors as well. And if it's pulling to one side heavily when braking, possibly new calipers as well.

[nxski]

Thanks, I usually don't like going anywhere other than Cvi but I might just have to this time.

No point attempting a do-it-yourself?

[jessef]

You can do it yourself if you prefer.

To replace the rotors, you need a few specials tools. The auto hub assembly has to be removed and the whole hub with the rotor attached is removed. Then the rotor is separated from the hub and the new one installed. At that point you should repack the bearings/hub with fresh grease (once the old grease is removed) and reinstall, adjust hubs and then calipers, if you need them, and pads. Usually takes about 1.5 hours per side. If you're doing it for the first time and don't have air tools, it may take twice as long so put a good 1/2 day to a full day to do it all.

If doing the calipers, you'll need to bleed the brakes as well.

[nxski]

As there is a time crunch I might try to take it in this time. Sounds like the kind of job I'd prefer to do myself if I had the time though.

[Luna-Sea]

Hey,
You could take the calipers apart and clean the sliders,
they like to bind over time.
Check the condition and thickness of your
rotors while doing this.(grooved or nice and smooth?)
Measure only the shiny part,not the rusty lip.
Check your pads,when they get worn down the
piston sticks out farther from in the calipers bore.
Added to worn rotors and rusty sliders
they can get pretty sticky at this point.
Your cost for doing this could be $0 (my favorite)
or the price of pads(bit more)
Putting new pads on so-so or almost Ass rotors will give
you better brakes then you had but will tend to eat the pads
up a bit quicker,especially if the rotors are worn with grooves.
Pulsing when braking is usually warped rotors,which depending on how
much meat is left can be machined.

I myself would just change out pads and clean sliders if I was
short on cash,then save until you can change out everything
at the same time.(rotors, pads,calipers,rubber brake hoses ect.)

Good to see your getting in there!
Right on!

[nxski]

I'll check that this evening then and see how it goes when I take it to burnaby tomorrow to get my hitch put on. The money isn't too much of a problem bit I'd prefer to prolong my costs for a couple months until my latest loan is paid off. Is there a specific cleaner I should use? Should I grease the sliders? What do the sliders look like? Sorry for all the questions, there are a lot of firsts for me with this vehicle.

[jessef]

Don't want to skip out on the brakes. Especially on a Delica where most of your stopping power is on the front brakes.

If your rotors are warped or too narrow thickness (you need a precise caliper to measure) and your pads are shot and they are grinding/generating heat, you are also destroying the wheel bearings/heating up grease in the hub, brake fluid in calipers, etc...

Your brakes may just be good enough to drive on but you don't know that.

An unknown with brakes is not smart. Pay the money and get it done. Leave anything else secondary.

[nxski]

Fair enough, any idea on costs for getting that done? By the sounds of it the sliders binding is what butch was talking about. Doesn't he usually just clean, replace the pads and grease?
That's what I gathered from the meet but I could be totally wrong.

Edit: I'm not getting a pulsating jerking feeling that I would expect front a warped rotor, it's more like the right is rubbing slightly more than the left causing the vehicle to pull right.

[nxski]

Well, the pads are definitely rubbing and I've run out of time for looking at it tonight. I got the wheels off but don't have time to do anything else. Tomorrow I have to make a trip to burnaby in the van, is this going to do any more damage than what's been done already? I suppose u can drive my truck to the swap meet but definitely have to make the trip tomorrow in the van. I've made an appointment with Cvi for tuesday and will just have to skip out of work early.

[Luna-Sea]

Hey,
Post some pics of the carnage!

Getting them done is probably a good
Call if you have not done a brake job before.
The guys at CVI will probably let you watch
From a safe distance and you will see first hand
What to look for. Its not a hard job but you do
Have to get it right,

Right On!

To answer you other queery,brake cleaner
And lube for sliders yes,but no lube on any
Of the brake surfaces.....you will see at CVI

[nxski]

I'll try to post a video later, nothing really looks out of place so pictures won't tell much. So you're thinking a trip out to Burnaby from Tsawwassen and back tomorrow wouldn't do too much more damage?
Thanks for all the replies!

[Strada 92]

Check the brake on your Mighty Max,they should be identical.

[nxski]

Apart from the abs I think you're right, I'll look into it some more. In pretty sure the mightymax has a similar problem too, it jerks left under braking.

[Luna-Sea]

If its not metal on metal it should get you where you need to go.
Just get it taken care soon eh!
No tailgating!


Right On!