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1st package arrived

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I received my first package from 4 Japan auctions:
2 x 7" PIAA Super 4x4 fog lights with holding brackets for the bull bar
fog light button
Delica Space Gear options 11x17 pamphlet (in Japanese)
Delica Space Gear Owners Manual (all in Japanese)
instrument pod for the center of the console, including the inclinometer.

Fog lights
I haven't done this before, should be interesting.
I know the relay for the fog lights is missing, I wonder if I can just use one from an auto parts store of Canadian Tire, I'll see.
There is a plug already hanging inside at the front of the engine bay, I am hoping that used to be for fog lights even though the relay isn't there.
Then I'll have to wire from the relay box to the dash

Inclinometer
The inclinometer pod has the wood veneer on it, the rest of my van doesn't. I think I'll just extract the sphere from the inclinometer and plug it in where the original one used to be.

I am giddy again; doesn't take much but I love this van!
:-D

BTW shipping via Japan Post took one week to reach me; a package sent via DHL to me from the US a month and a half ago hasn't arrived, and DHL's package tracking web site says:
"No Results

We wish to inform you that a number of packages may experience delayed or missing tracking information. Continue to check this tracking page for the latest update. Please accept our sincere apology for any inconvenience this may cause."
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patriceboivin wrote:I received my first package from 4 Japan auctions:
2 x 7" PIAA Super 4x4 fog lights with holding brackets for the bull bar
fog light button
Delica Space Gear options 11x17 pamphlet (in Japanese)
Delica Space Gear Owners Manual (all in Japanese)
instrument pod for the center of the console, including the inclinometer.

Fog lights
I haven't done this before, should be interesting.
I know the relay for the fog lights is missing, I wonder if I can just use one from an auto parts store of Canadian Tire, I'll see.
There is a plug already hanging inside at the front of the engine bay, I am hoping that used to be for fog lights even though the relay isn't there.
Then I'll have to wire from the relay box to the dash

Inclinometer
The inclinometer pod has the wood veneer on it, the rest of my van doesn't. I think I'll just extract the sphere from the inclinometer and plug it in where the original one used to be.

I am giddy again; doesn't take much but I love this van!
:-D

BTW shipping via Japan Post took one week to reach me; a package sent via DHL to me from the US a month and a half ago hasn't arrived, and DHL's package tracking web site says:
"No Results

We wish to inform you that a number of packages may experience delayed or missing tracking information. Continue to check this tracking page for the latest update. Please accept our sincere apology for any inconvenience this may cause."
:evil:
Nice!! Where did you get your hands on the gauge pod? Is it a "regular folk" auction or is it for dealers and whatnot?
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This is my experience, if people have a better way please let me know.
This is a bit long, sorry...

From what I see the Japanese only use Yahoo for almost everything online (http://www.yahoo.co.jp/). Which is why in Japan Google actually has ads on TV, but from what I see, they're not working. :-D Nobody seems to be using eBay either, Yahoo totally locked up the online portal and auctions market -- and I notice Geocities is still running over there, amazingly; it's owned by Yahoo: http://geocities.yahoo.co.jp/) They also don't use Facebook much, if at all (ref. http://www.techinasia.com/problem-with- ... -in-japan/ ).

I tried and I don't believe you can get a yahoo.co.jp account if you don't live in Japan. You may even need that stamp they use for official transactions as well, not sure though. Obviously I don't have one of those. :-(

Some enterprising Japanese set themselves up as an intermediary between Yahoo.co.jp and the rest of the planet.

One place called White Rabbit (ref. http://whiterabbitexpress.com/ ) offers to buy anything you like from stores in Japan and ship it out for a fee (about 10% plus $13 per transaction). Most of the popular stuff they ship out seems to be gadgets, junk food, manga, anime, model kits, things like that which you can only buy in Japan, but they were willing to go talk to Mitsubishi parts resellers for me (I was told no parts prior to 2001). They don't do online auction bids but they are willing to buy stuff for you on Yahoo Japan if there is a Buy Now option. If however you know of something available now in stores in Japan for a Delica, including auto parts stores, they probably will be willing to go over there and buy it for you, then ship it back.

I used http://jauce.com/ because I noticed that some interesting items were turning up in Yahoo's auctions but with no Buy Now buttons.

Using Chrome combined with Google Translate at first I searched the Yahoo.co.jp site, then when I saw an auction I was interested in or would like to watch, I plugged in the auction number in the Jauce search field.
Now though to find the auctions I like I mostly use another site than Yahoo:
http://aucview.aucfan.com/

Once you found the auction you like in Jauce, if you want to bid you upload funds up front via PayPal to Jauce by clicking that lime-coloured Deposit button, then you bid, and hope for the best. Your transactions page shows you the status of the auctions you bid on.

If the seller was a store, in Japan they tax store transactions so you may have to upload more funds to Jauce, who will pay that tax and pretend they were the successful bidders on the seller's auction.

If you win, the auction is moved to the Won Auctions section and the item is marked "processing" which means they paid and are waiting for the item to arrive in the mail. In the left pane there is also a link called WON -- Processing which just lists those.

Once they receive the package in Japan, they update the status and you can see it in WON - Arrived To Us.

They collect the items and store them in their warehouse. (I can't imagine what's in there, must be interesting :? ) If you bid on multiple auctions you can wait until they all arrive at their warehouse and tell them to package all the items together to save on shipping costs. When you're ready in the left pane you click Order a Shipment and it will let you select what you want in the package.

They have weight restrictions and their interface seems to be pretty smart, when items weigh a lot or are very bulky you may get a warning. Some things they can't ship because they are just too large or heavy.

in some cases if there needs to be messages between the seller and the buyer they did that for me no problem. Though that was for items I had already won, I doubt they would want to start haggling back and forth during auctions.

Of course once all the items are in their warehouse you have to pay for shipping to your location.

Once they ship the package it will show it and you can track its progress. In my case it was a link that pointed to the Japan Post web site; I was a little alarmed when I saw that my package was headed for the second-least populate prefecture in Japan on their West coast instead of going east, but there must be a cargo airport there just for packages because my package arrived at the Canada Post station in Dartmouth NS just a few days later.

When I picked it up I had to pay the Canada Customs fee (tax). Maybe because of that the mail delivery guy dropped off the package slip in our mailbox and ran away, he didn't ring the doorbell or anything. i had to wait an extra day because of that.

All in all they make it relatively easy, provided you have the funds for what you bid on.
There are interesting auctions out there... could become addictive... :-)

Here's a fun one for example a roll-up tarp which seems to have been a Mitsubishi option at some point:
https://www.jauce.com/auction/q25650103

i saw a Chamonix shovel and a foldable ladder in a vinyl travelling case, memorabilia pins from some Mitsubishi events, weird looking 4x4 event stickers, different parts, some of it probably the Japanese sellers think is just junk at this point, but to us it can be useful.
(ref. Chamonix ladder: http://aucview.aucfan.com/yahoo/n130509321/ )

Here is a Terzo ladder which sold for 46 dollars: http://aucview.aucfan.com/yahoo/t382701187/
I don't know if you could get something like that shipped in the mail though, that would be a very large package.

I noticed that the things I want the most don't appear much, though the auction are flooded with shocks, LED lights, pages and pages. It can be very time consuming to sift through all the auctions.

There are other auction sites but so far I've only bought from yahoo auctions. The other ones are a bit esoteric.
aucfan though seems to search the more popular ones. Rakuten is a huge retail store chain in Japan and they seem keen on shipping things internationally, they set up a global oniine store. They also have auctions like eBay or Yahoo. But I noticed their English site doesn't have as many items as their Japanese site... :?
For example if you search their site for Delica Space Gear you mostly get HID light kits which ship easily:
http://global.rakuten.com/en/search/?k= ... ch_regular
On the Japanese site: http://search.rakuten.co.jp/search/mall ... rp=product

I am guessing that parts resellers have their own contacts inside Japan and they know what parts work with which frame types, so for some things it's probably easier and safer to go with parts reselers we already have here in Canada. I searched online because I'm on the east coast... the only "popular" JDM shop here is on Kijiji and they seem to specialize on Kei trucks though I am told they have sold other things.

On Youtube I saw some videos showing auto recyclers in Japan who buy old vehicles and have parts for sale. They don't post on online auction sites though. I would be happier if I could speak Japanese and had contacts over there. I guess many places can interact in English but you would have to know which places actually have old Delica L300 or Space Gear parts in their warehouses.

If you're in a hurry or desperate enough you can use use Google Chrome as your browser, use translate.google.com to translate an item name from English to Japanese, the plug it into https://www.google.co.jp/?gws_rd=ssl, see if you find anything. You may want to switch to Images, sometimes it's faster. But once you find the item, you can go to the site and hope they have an e-mail address and you can try to send them an e-mail... most won't respond but a few might.

I hope this helps somewhat.

Searching for stuff can take hours and hours, if you're waiting for something specific that was available 15-20 years ago. :?
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Wow. That's quite the process! I may sift through from time to time to see if I can get my mitts on anything interesting. Hpw did you figure all this out? Trial and error??

Lets see some pictures of your box of goodies!
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Quite the tale to tell Pat.

I personally use the ebay.uk site and aliexpress for items. For example: I found various dealers for delica snorkels! Might have do a group buy.

Been very fruitful so far. Larger parts...i just call RSI. Don't like the forever search for items.
Yeah I joined the Dark Side because the medical plan is top shelf!

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Macro, I work with computers all day with Oracle software, have been working in IT since 1998 but since I was a teenager I've worked with computers, started on a 1982 IBM PC. I spend too much time online; I don't have much of a life :shock: And I really wanted to find parts, somehow. Since there aren't any parts resellers near where I live, and the diesel mechanics I went to had never seen a Delica before, I started looking online. Probably if there were parts resellers near where I live I might not have spent so much effort trying to understand how to do this. Plus there may be a better way, I just don't know how.

I also would like to "restore" (loosely speaking -- because I don't know what I'm doing) the Delica to what it must have been like 20 years ago. For example I found out there is a chrome shop nearby, maybe I'll have the bull bar re-chromed (?). I bought fog lights. I wish I had a ladder. (and an unlimited budget, :? ) I have no idea how to restore the plastic of the dash etc. to what it looks like when new, or if that's even possible. There are a group of antique car enthusiasts who meet a a local A&W every week, one day I'll drop by and see if they might be willing to advise me.

Big Bird, what you're doing makes sense, because in the UK and in Australia from what I've read online have had more Delicas than have been imported into Canada. Maybe they don't have that 15 year import limit? That gives them more vehicles to recycle, plus the resellers have had more time to figure out where to obtain parts. Also Mitsubishi in the UK doesn't mind selling them parts, as long as they still have them in their catalogue. Here in Canada I don't know if that's the case; I haven't read flattering reviews on the 'net regarding the Canadian dealerships. Because of that I haven't approached the dealership here to ask them what they are willing to do. Maybe I'll drop in one day and see what they say.

I did send tweets and e-mails to Mitsubishi Motors Canada asking them about an owner's manual but the clerk (I assume it was a clerk) didn't seem to know how to respond, she asked me for a part number. I thought they might have copies of their manuals in their own library or something, but doesn't seem like it. I would have thought that by now they would have all those older documents scanned and archived as PDF files. But maybe not. As for tweets, they just ignored me.

Australia seems to have moved on to the D:5 and other things from Nissan or Toyota, I don't know what's popular there now. I vaguely remember reading a news item where Australia struck down some of their import restrictions because they realized they weren't in the car production business, so why bother restricting imports? Canada isn't either, really; I don't think we ever were (Detroit is not in Canada). There is no "Canadian" auto manufacturer, that I know of. Was the Bricklin Canadian? (see how much I know). I think there is a small auto manufacturer in Quebec but I read that they aren't allowed to sell them for use on Canadian roads because of the regulations we have. So they sell them to resorts, golf courses, other countries... just not in Canada. Another company from Quebec almost managed to sell electric vans to the postal service in France, but they didn't get the contract. Why can't they sell them in Canada? As usual it doesn't make any sense to me.

I also don't know, regarding the UK suppliers, would they be buying parts from other EU countries, e.g. Germany? On Youtube there is an uploaded VHS presentation video in German for the Delica Space Gear and it is left-hand drive.
(ref. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5EtamlDPko)

I don't know where to look for parts in Germany. There may be parts, but again, unfortunately, I don't speak German. They really, really ought to teach more languages in elementary and high school. I wish I had taken extra languages classes in the evenings or something instead of wasting my time watching M.A.S.H. re-runs on TV.

I searched for French auto parts web sites but couldn't figure it out, even though I can understand French. I'll keep looking.

I still believe the best way to find parts would be to have someone in Japan who knows where to look in person and who can establish contacts, because I suspect that 90% of the parts never make it onto online sites. I'm afraid too that because in Japan they prefer new vehicles to old ones, a lot of older vehicle parts are just being recycled without even being offered up for sale. :-(

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As for the items...

The fog lights: https://www.jauce.com/auction/p399278734 The image is a bit misleading, I was surprised at how large the lights are, they are about the same diameter as the space between the top and bottom chrome bars of the front bull bar. They are heavy too and they sound like there may be sand inside them but the seller thinks it's probably a bit of rust. Once they are cleaned up and attached I'll take a picture of the Delica. :-)

The accessories flyer (from 1994?) : https://drive.google.com/folderview?id= ... sp=sharing

Some pages from the Owners Manual (1998?) https://drive.google.com/folderview?id= ... sp=sharing

Things I noticed in the accessories flyer: the bright yellow awning; a screen to put behind the front row seats (?); two small tables to place between the 2nd and 3rd row seats when the 2nd row seats are facing the rear; a big storage organizer to put between the driver and passenger seats, and between the 2nd row seats; curtains; a tv set; rear spoiler, windshield deflector; chrome covers for the mirrors (I think I saw some in one auction, not sure); the two types of parking poles.

The owners manual raised some questions...
p. 3-9 are they talking about turning something to extend the side step outward? Mine seems to be welded in place, but I don't have the step that automatically comes out when the sliding door is opened.

p.5-3 there seems to have been an option for the middle slot of the intrument pod for corner sensors instead of the thermometer. Mine doesn't have either of the ones displayed, I have the older compass + outside thermometer reading.

p.10-15 and 10-16 they show the CD changer... mine didn't have the cartridge, I bought one on eBay but it's about 2mm too thick :-( Plus the one they show opens on a different side than mine. You'd think they were all the same, but no.

p.10-18, they highlight the radio antenna, and something in the left, rearmost window. What are they talking about I wonder.

p.13-9 what is that they highlight under the glove compartment on the passenger side?

pp.13-11 to 13-16 I scanned because it shows the jack and where to put it to lift the vehicle.

I didn't scan p.13-30 but I thought it was a little funny, they have a "don't to this" barred blue circle telling us not to tow large delivery trucks with our Delica. So, don't try it, Mitsubishi doesn't recommend it. :-D

If there is a topic you want me to scan let me know and I'll add it. The whole manual is about 120 pages, double-sided.
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I just noticed the PDF of the accessories flyer doesn't zoom well.. in a couple of weeks I'll re-scan it and save it as a .png graphic file instead, sorry.
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Fog lights are attached but not wired at this point.

I'll have to get a handheld sandblaster too, because the inside of the lights is rusted a bit.

The bottom part of the lights is made with a metal that doesn't rust, but the back of the light is made from metal that rusts, but polished on the outside to make it look shiny when the lights were new.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0r7PF ... sp=sharing
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patriceboivin wrote:As for the items...
p.13-9 what is that they highlight under the glove compartment on the passenger side?

If there is a topic you want me to scan let me know and I'll add it. The whole manual is about 120 pages, double-sided.
it doesnt show :( just comes up s a google home page .....


possibly the emergency flare? they may take them out before shipping to you guys? you may have a small holder under the dash in the foot well where it slots into? I still have mine! they have a use by date on them so that could be anothe reson why you dont have one?


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