LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIAL MODEL??

[smellmysoxs]

What is the LSD listed on some of the CHAMONIX edition? thanks http://www.buysell.com/root/detail/BC/1 ... MONIX.aspx

[bae146]

I thought LSD was a mind altering chemical. No seriously it stands for Limited Slip Differential. In a standard differential both wheels can be turned at different speeds, independently of each other. In a limited slip differential both wheels are turned at the same speed, up to a point where the clutch pack starts to slip. For example, if you are driving up a hill where one wheel is on dry pavement and the other wheel is on ice. In an open diff the wheel on the ice will spin and you will not be able to climb up the hill. With the LSD diff you should be able to move forward up the hill. The amount of traction you can have with a LSD is way less than you would be able to gain if you were to have a locker. A locker physically locks both axle shafts together allowing no slip from side to side. See this link for more details:

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential.htm

[smellmysoxs]

Thats kinda what I thought thanks a lot

[smellmysoxs]

Is this standard on all Delica's or just the CHAMONIX edition?

[delicat]

More common on SuperExceed but not on all of them, it's a hit and miss kinda thing. Guess it was simply an option at the time. My '91 SupEx has one, only found out after I had purchased it...

Ciao

[sasquatch-hunter]

Green1 sent me this link:

http://www.cars-directory.net/specs/mitsubishi/delica/

I think that all SuperExeeds have LSDs.

[MardyDelica]

Hi, Sebastian,
not all super exceed has LSd, some early 1990 & 1991 super exceed dont hve LSd,
i notice that LSD came from super exceed & chamonix in the late 1991,
the reason chamionix is lsd is that they design this chamonix for winter place in japan. also during winter olympic in Sareyevo thy used delica chamonix as to transport official & athlete to the game.
but still the best way to see it. is that youjack up both rear wheel or put it in the hoist & see it both wheels turn. if you hold & both turn its lSD, if one dont turn its just regular ome.
hope this help,
Cheers;

[Erebus]

jack up both rear wheel or put it in the hoist & see it both wheels turn. if you hold & both turn its lSD, if one dont turn its just regular one.

Let me clarify that. Turn one wheel, if the other turns in the SAME direction, it is an LSD, if the other turns in the OPPOSITE direction, it is an open diff (or the clutch plates on the LSD are toast).

[MardyDelica]

yes, that right if you turn both wheel & hold the wheel in same direction its LSD, if one other wheel can hold it & the other one is not turning its not LSD. i think you got chamonix. usually chamonix has LSD on it.
you can check this .
cheers;

[mdrive]

I think if the Transaxel code is V44 then it is LSD. Most Super Exceed and Chamomix I have seen 1992 and up are LSD.

[Miloki]

Can I get some clarification here, please?

My understanding was that putting a vehicle in 4wd locked the differential. It was only this winter - when the guy who plows our driveway got stuck in his so-called 4x4 and we had to dig him out because the so-called 4x4 didn't have locking differentials - that I realized that not all 4X4 differentials locked.
I had been under the belief that locking=4WD, not locking=AWD.

So with the Delica, does this mean that if you have a model with LSD, that means the differentials DON'T lock completely even in 4WD mode? Or is this something that's just supposed to make a difference when you're NOT in 4wd mode?

[docsavage]

Miloki,

Putting a Delica into 4wd locks the centre differential in the transfer case. This splits power between the front and rear axles. Each axle has a differential, and in most cases this is an open differential. Some full time 4wd drive vehicles (my older Range Rover) have a viscous coupling as the centre differential which does not lock up, and has open differentials on the axle - in this vehicle it is possible to be "in" (it is alway in) 4wd and only have one wheel driving - not useful in a lot of situations.

James

[Erebus]

Putting a Delica into 4wd locks the centre differential in the transfer case. This splits power between the front and rear axles. Each axle has a differential, and in most cases this is an open differential. Some full time 4wd drive vehicles (my older Range Rover) have a viscous coupling as the centre differential which does not lock up, and has open differentials on the axle - in this vehicle it is possible to be "in" (it is alway in) 4wd and only have one wheel driving - not useful in a lot of situations.

Allow me to disagree slightly with you.

The Delica doesn't have a centre differential. The transfer case either has the front driveshaft locked in step with the rear driveshaft, or the front driveshaft is completely disconnected. No ifs, buts or maybes (ignoring the front hubs issue)

Some AWD vehicles have an open centre diff, which means that only 1 of 4 wheels spinning uselessly results in being stuck -- all power goes to the spinning wheel.

But a viscous coupling like in some Range Rovers is an open centre diff with a magic set of plates that, when there is slippage, the fluid thickens from the friction's heat (unlike most liquids that get thinner when heated) and does a not bad job of locking the two sides of the diff together, sending 1/2 the power front, 1/2 to rear. Viscous couplings can also be on the axle diffs, you could have 3 of them. Don't know of any that do, but it is possible. Some front-wheel drive vehicles have them on the diff to give them better traction.

There are all kinds of differents systems out there, from open diffs with locking mechanisms (air or electric or viscous coupling), to Torsen differentials, to limited slips (that many Delicas have in the rear) to electronically controlled black boxes (e.g., Haldex).

So with the Delica, does this mean that if you have a model with LSD, that means the differentials DON'T lock completely even in 4WD mode? Or is this something that's just supposed to make a difference when you're NOT in 4wd mode?

Front diff is ALWAYS open, rear is an open, but depending how well the LSD in your particular Delica's rear diff works (if you have one), then you have more traction than an open diff. It works regardless of 4WD status, same in 2WD as in 4WD. It you are slipping, engage the handbrake some (keep button pushed in to not lock brake); this provides the resistance needed to "engage" the LSD.

Hope this helps.

[BadgeStar]

The L300 Delica does not have a centre differential (the L400 does). When 4WD is selected on an L300 the front axle is locked to the rear axle so front and rear wheels turn at exactly the same speed. The front axle has a diff and the rear axle has a diff this allows left wheels to rotate at different speeds to the right wheels which allows the vehicle to go around bends or make turns.
The L400 has a centre diff lock which when applied just makes it the same as an L300.
As I understand it AWD vehicles have a centre diff but no diff lock so they are not suited to extreme off-roading.
For a better description of the different drive systems click the following link .....
http://4x4abc.com/4WD101/4WD-AWD-autoAWD.html

Barry.

[shinta]

More common on SuperExceed but not on all of them, it's a hit and miss kinda thing. Guess it was simply an option at the time. My '91 SupEx has one, only found out after I had purchased it...

Ciao

hi delicat, just would like to specifically ask, as to how you found out the your SupEx has lsd. how can i chk my rig? does it have a sticker/label at the rear wheels or somewhere? a photo or the exact physical location direction would be great, so i could check mine as well.