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heating the tank.

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Hi all,

For those of you that have salvaged old tanks for your wvo, are you heating the oil in them in any way? or are you pulling the oil cold to the heated filter.

Also, had an idea for a cheap tank fabrication...

use an old tire, not on a rim. fab two plates, plastic or aluminum, stick 'em on either side, boom you have a tank that fits in the spare tire cage. add the filler and in and out lines and it's done. perhaps stick coil in to heat the oil. the bottom plate may have to be dished and baffled to prevent sucking air on hills etc., probably wouldn't work a an aux. diesel tank.

now tell me all the reasons that this wouldn't work...
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I don't heat the oil in the tank, I use an aux fuel pump to draw the cold oil out of the tank and push it through the heated VegMax filter, then it hits the VegTherm Mega heater. I do have a HotFox, but I haven't installed it yet.

As for the tire tank idea, you might end up with a lot of dirt/gunk coming off the inside of the tire when it comes in contact with the oil. I would definitely run some long term tests on the tire rubber before trusting it to hold oil.
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The natural rubber and WVO just won't get along, lets just leave it at that.

Keep thinking creatively though!
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While I think the expense of getting a steel or aluminium tank fabricated well worth it and the route to go for me, I am still curious - are tires still made with natural rubber? :M
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cool, thanks forthe replies, I'm parting out a golf so i plan to steal the plastic tank out of it anyway. for now unheated i guess.
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Hi all just a thought have a keg party keep the keg [$30] get it modified [$80] and bang a new stainless tank........Keep Your Sights Straight...sniper
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Mmmm, could be a problem driving around some neighborhoods, eg. Abbotsford, langford; the wrong (or right) kinda crowd may follow you home. Mug or tankard in hand. Would be cool.
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I use a Hot Fox In tank Heater. I like the fact that my fuel pump does not have to work as hard to pull cold veg to the veggie max filter. When I feel the coolant lines and they are piping hot right at the tank I think the cost of the Hot fox is well worth it. My two cents.
As for a tank I use a old Chevy S-10 tank. It sits inside for now but I am, like many people, looking for a way to have a tank in the spare tire holder. Talked to a few plastic fabricators here on th island and none so far will make one for me when I say it is for veggie oil. Liability is an issue and it is illegal unless they are fuel certified. I really think that if we pooled an order together we could save some $$$$.
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Sean,

As you know I'm hunting for a WVO tank (or 2) and l like the idea of pooling together but unless we all get the same design it might be a little of a pain... I'm looking to get one that fits where the exhaust used to be and keep my spare in it's cage. Anybody else?
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I think I'm going to ask my dad about the place he gets tanks built for the yachts his company repairs I might be able to get a bit of a deal (and pass it along to others), I know they do custom aluminum tanks I will check on plastic as well, I think I want aluminum though, what are the pros and cons of each?

I think I will start with the spare mounted tank and hopefully add one in where the exhaust is currently after some time. I'm planning on getting the elsbett "one tank" system so the extra tanks are really just for more range, thought I may turn the rear tank into a mobile filter system for the really long trips.

has anyone thought about replacing the existing tanks with one big custom tank? I would think this would be able to hold more and/or be able to be shorter and provide better protection (would still need to put a good skid plate over the transfer case though). would the gain just not be worth the price?
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SteepCreek is getting a 114L WVO tank custom built in Nanaimo, if it works out I'm next in line :-)
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