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We have done mileage checks in our first 3 tanks and come up with a respectful 23.5 miles per gallon(city)Not bad for a tank on wheels ! Looking fwd to running down to oregon next month on I-5 to compare. I see that the usual config for fuel tanks on these vehicles is 1 60 ltr and 1 10 ltr in series. We have only filled up 3 times since we bought it and have yet to fill over 47 ltrs.That was with the low fuel light on for aprox20-30 klm.(Dont have the guts to try furthur than that!) Maybe we have a oddball tank or a huge reserve of 20 ltrs.Also we are getting alot of black smoke on acceleration but I read thats the nature of the beast.It flew through aircare and seems to be running great.(The smoke screen is a GREAT tail gate deterent ,3/4 throttle and people seem to back off in a hurry) Any imput on the fuel capacity would be appreciated (Ive read all the black smoke forums and dont think I have any thing to worry about) will be taking it to cvi soon for a tune up before our trip. Thanks Paul M.

Also we are getting alot of black smoke on acceleration but I read thats the nature of the beast.

I dunno, Hazel doesn't make any black smoke. I bet your CVI tune-up will put an end to it... Have a great trip!

The fuel tank is manual has one tank, automatic has 2 tanks, you can see them peeking out behind your step below the sliding side door. Black smoke is very rare, from experience in all the convoys and trips for the local delicas. But CVI will sort it out. Take a list of your questions written down so you don't forget to ask. Cheers, Christine.

I have a '92 Exceed Automatic and have put 66.7 ltrs in it, so something's not quite right... How many KM do you get on these tanks? Also are you talking US or UK MPG?

Agreed with Schwa, if you drove for 20-30k with the fuel warning light on and only managed to fill 47L than that's very odd. Today I put 57L, I wasn't touching empty yet but close... and of course no warning light. BTW, an automatic should have 2 tanks totaling 75L... not 70.

The black smokes does reduce with a reduction of the right foot input... . You can drive it like you stole it or you can be gentle, save some money and not black out your fellow drivers.

Cheers,
David

Tank size on the automatic diesel (regardless of model) is 75 litres. Given the physical size of the tanks, I don't think it's a 60-10 split, I'd put it more at a 45-30 or 40-35. I've gone over 500 km in Moon Machine and still only put just over 50 litres into the spout (still with no fuel pump light on), and according to the manual, the light comes on when there is 7 litres remaining. This means you should be able to go another 50 km before you're completely out of fuel.

Black-smoking is bad - like Uncle Buck smoking - and should not be the way these run. A bit of smoke when going uphill or towing or fully loaded or stomping on it, I generally don't get too upset about that. But then, I try very hard to not make 'er smoke (looks bad). Keep in mind, the top speed of these is rated at 110-120km/h, and it's only an 85HP engine, so if you're trying to set records getting through the intersection, it's gonna smoke. If it smokes ALL the time: bad; if it smokes when you take off from the intersection or when you're trying to pass that Porsche: slow down; if it smokes when you mat-it: what's the hurry? (I'll come down off my soap box now.)

From what I understand of AirCare, one of our Leopard 2 tanks (750kW V12 umpteen-litre diesel engine powered, 45 tonnes) would probably pass inspection because it's proportionally based engine size vs emissions: bigger engine is 'allowed' greater emissions. It kind of makes sense, but I think misses the point. Besides, diesels have lower CO and CO2 emissions than gasoline, and those are the GHG everyone's worried about.

mararmeisto wrote:Besides, diesels have lower CO and CO2 emissions than gasoline, and those are the GHG everyone's worried about.

While generally true in terms of same size engine gas/diesel, technically if you burn a liter of gasoline and a liter of diesel you'll get more CO2 from the diesel, but it also contains more energy per volume, so that liter should do more work, especially in a more thermally efficient engine.

I managed about 380 klm. between fuel stops and worked my mileage out with the cnd. gallon. 4.5 liters to the gallon. There are 2 tanks in the vehicle but they dont seem as tall as the normal tanks installed in a super. Having said that I will have to do a physical measurement to be sure.Thanks for your replies , this site is great!
Paul

Out of the 5 types of emissions, diesel is better than gas in 3 categories, tied in 1 (over the lifetime of the car), and worse in 1. That's off the top of my head, and I can't remember which category is which. I'll try and find the link.

Sayulita 101,

Isn't it 3.8L to the Gallon for our side of the pond?

3.8 liters to a US gallon and 4.54 to an Imperial gallon. I use this site to do my conversions.




http://www.convert-me.com/en/

sayulita101 wrote:

That is one sweet clean Delica.

Hi Paul Sayulata101,

Beautiful deli, our colours are the reverse, dark lower, silver upper, rear basket instead of roof basket.

My 2 gas tanks look to be about the same size, as viewed when looking thru the side door step. I think the only tank size difference is between automatic (2 tanks, total 75 l) vs manual (1 tank, less capacity). When we do group off road treks, those delii with manual bring an extra fuel can so that we all have the same range before refill time.

No black smoke clouds, sadly, I used to love doing that in my Jetta to tailgaters, however that was manual and my deli is automatic. Black smoke very rare, when we do our group events black smoke is not seen. CVI will fix it.

I don't track mileage, but refill when I see a decent-ish price.

Are you in lower mainland? Please put in your profile, so others can answer your questions quickly.

Cheers, Christine.

The thing that keeps me scratching my head over all of this is we fill the tank with litres and the speedometer reads kilometers - so why is everyone trying to figure out how many miles to the gallon these things get?

Just my two drachma's worth...

mararmeisto wrote:The thing that keeps me scratching my head over all of this is we fill the tank with litres and the speedometer reads kilometers - so why is everyone trying to figure out how many miles to the gallon these things get?

I wonder that too, but have long since given up trying to figure out why.

BTW: diesel engines always smoke when under load. They set engine RPM by controlling the amount of fuel injected. If the amount of fuel injected, as directed by the driver's right foot, exceeds the RPM the engine is running at, the excess fuel will not be efficiently burned. Hence the black smoke when pulling hard. A sharp tuneup will reduce the smoke, but can never completely eliminate it.

Modern diesels with electronic engine management can do something about this, but our 4D56T diesels have more in common with tractor engines. The closest they get to anything resembling engine management is the boost and altitude compensation on the injector pump.

...laura