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torsion bar/camber change
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:18 pm
by norisan
About a month ago I adjusted the left torsion bar to level the van side to side, then took it in for a wheel alignment. Two weeks later I decided I wanted to raise the front of the van to remove the nose down attitude, this required re indexing the torsion bars. Thinking I may need another wheel alignment afterwards, I checked the camber beforehand with an angle gauge and it read 0 degrees, which according to the print out is where the garage set it. Many adjustments later I was finally satisfied with the front of the van sitting 1" higher than previously. Interesting thing was, when I rechecked the camber reading using the same angle gauge and same reference point, the hub, it was unchanged, still sitting at 0 degrees. Anyone have a similar experience?
Re: torsion bar/camber change
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:34 pm
by JMK
How has the handling been effected since the change, is it a noticably better ride now?
Re: torsion bar/camber change
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:06 am
by norisan
There is a huge improvement in the ride - it doesn't feel any firmer to me, but it no longer hits the stops going over bumps, so the overall impression is of a much smoother and quieter ride. If I recall there was only about 1/2 to 3/4 inch clearance between the stop and suspension arm, so even a minor pot hole would be quite jarring as it was bouncing off the stops all the time. I didn't measure it, but i'm guessing the clearance is now about 2" - translated to movement at the wheel of probably about 3 - 4 inches.
Re: torsion bar/camber change
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:42 am
by JMK
Thanks,
I remember reading in this forum a year ago that it could make a signficant difference, so when I changed my shocks, and that didn't make a huge difference, I crawled under and had a look. I had a bit of trouble figuring out exactly how it was done, so I gave up at the time. I think I need to reconsider it however. Did you use the 'how to' on this forum?
Re: torsion bar/camber change
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:04 am
by norisan
I believe I got the info from the UK forum, but I'll check that and get back to you. Two things; it really helps if you can manufacture a long 17mm socket, otherwise you'll be spending a lot of time removing and re installing the nuts. The passenger side is a real pain to work on, I was replacing the rear U joint on the front drive shaft so removed the whole shaft - which gave a lot more room to work, and I think I would do this even if I wasn't replacing the joint - if you take a peek underneath I think you'll see why. You need to drain some oil from the transfer case other wise when you pull the shaft oil will run out - don't ask how I found this out! I'm guessing it was about two liters.
Re: torsion bar/camber change
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:10 am
by norisan
update: just search "indexing" on this site,there is a really good explanation.
Re: torsion bar/camber change
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:24 am
by Luna-Sea
Those newer ratchet wrenches (open wrench one end and racheting closed on the other)
are helpful.
Right on!

Re: torsion bar/camber change
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:08 am
by cinjay
I just re indexed mine as well. I can attest to the much improved ride. Before the re indexing going over those bumps on a main road where the side roads meets it I would bottom out badly

Now I roll over those G outs with much more confidence. My alignment was out before hand, so I just went ahead and did it. I am very happy I did. Now I just have to install those upper ball joints so I can get that alignment done
