Hi again, my question is how much do you feal you can tow with a 2.5 auto? I have looked at some uk sites and found most of them to say 5500-6100 lbs can this be true .
would anyone here pull that much? i dont know how it pulls at all, as i have never pulled with mine. My thought at first was 4000lb-4500max, i have a 4200lb dry 4800lb wet 23ft trailer that i pull with my truck 6 or seven times a year, but if my pajaro can do it then i dont need my truck since i only use it to cam p
You 'can' pull that weight but I wouldn't recommend it.
Rule of thumb is max pulling weight 70% of your vehicle's weight.
If you have to pull that much with your Pajero, I would install an oil cooler on the transmission, a pyrometer/oil temp/boost gauges to monitor your engine and a larger exhaust to breath a little more. Also the cooling system should be like new.
The max I pulled comfortably with our stock 2.5 LWB Pajero was 2,500 lbs.
Your estimate of 2+ tonnes is too much. Way too much. Agree with jfarsang, it should be no more than 70% of tow vehicle weight, so that would put a trailer at no more that 1400 kg. And if you're in BC, then you would need to add brakes to the trailer (trailers is greater than 50% of tow vehicle weight).
750kg without trailer brakes
2500kg with trailer brakes - depending on state/prov regs
These are the max load ratings for towing capacity
That does not mean
a) you will not break anything
b) you can control a 2500kg trailer once it starts going out of control
I know I can move a 5,000 lbs with our Pajero around our lot but I would never take that weight on the road.
I don't know what your experience is like towing but I've seen some really scary towing accidents where the trailer took over and the driver could not control it because the trailer weight was too much.
The Pajero LWB weight in at under 2000 kg's
If you are towing more than the vehicle's weight, you are definitely asking for trouble not only for yourself but putting others on the road in danger as well. If you are towing something that you cannot control at all times, it may as well be a large vehicle without a steering wheel.
Personally, through experience with my Delica (2500cc) and now my Pajero (2800cc), it's been best if I keep the trailer weight to one tonne or less. It just seems the vehicles handle that weight best.
I had installed an electric brake assist into the Delica, simply because the front brakes were a little weak for my liking (until I upgraded them to the L400/Pajero double piston arrangement).
With my SWB Pajero, I'm still keeping the trailer weight in at one tonne, just because that keeps me from having to install a brake assist on the truck and brakes on my trailer, and it's still a good weight compared to the vehicle. As jfarsang has indicated, as the trailer starts approaching or exceeding the weight of the towing vehicle, an incident can become dangerous REALLY quickly, especially if the tow vehicle does not have the engine to deal with it. A lot of these big pickups are not sized so they can tow four to six tonnes, they're sized that big so they can stop four to six tonnes from trying to get away! Bigger brakers, bigger transmission, more cooling, etc.
Granted, I see that you're located in SK, so you won't/shouldn't have to deal with a lot of hills out there (where a trailer can be the most trouble), but we've had incidents out here with overloaded trailers getting away on the Delica, or worse, flipping it on its side - and that was on the flat, into a corner, so it doesn't take hills for trailers to be a problem.
all good points, i thingk it best if i dont pull the 23 ft with it then, my little Quad trailer should be no prob though, its about 1300 lbs with quad fuel and tenting gear. thanks for the help guys i love this club, you guys get back to everyone so fast
This is what i towed. Its a 1998 jeep Cherokee it is 4900 lbs. The pj did pull it and had no problem. But it worked for it on the hills and braking was hard. Could not go over a speed of 60km. I did not want to either go over 60 kmp. The pj only weighs in at 4000lbs. Thank god i pulled this jeep only for 15ks on the car dolly. I am impressed by this little beast. It may not go fast or get to speed fast but it sure can pull and dig in like a strong ox or bull. I do not suggest you do this i would only suggest a 2500lbs limit and no more. That means all the stuff u pack and the trailer you pull total.
I have also pulled an Intrepid 4050lbs , tracker 3800lbs , neon 2300lbs ,caviler 2500lbs.
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Thanks (NoDelie) it's good to know that she can do a heavy load. All be it for a short trip, I have already pulled the quad trailer and Two Quads not sure the weight of it all. But under 2200lbs for sure. She pulled like a champ and im shure i could pull that load all day with no issue. I wont pull anything more that that, im proud of my pajero and its not worth the risk of doing damage.
this is my first post so please go easy on me. I have been towing trailers for 40 years now with many different vehicles. There is no hard and fast rule but perhaps I might make some suggestions. The longer the wheelbase of the towing vehicle the more secure you will feel as you go down the road and the easier it will be to correct a trailer that starts to sway. Same is true of the trailer. We tow 14,000lb. trailers with 6.500 lb F350 trucks and you hardly know they are there if.......your load on the trailer is properly distributed, and you have 10% tongue weight unless you have massive frontal area in which case 15% to compensate. As I don't currently have a trailer between 2,000lb capacity and 14,000lb capacity I can't tell you my experience with my Pajero, however I would suggest 4-5,000lbs all things considered if; you have a proper weight distribution hitch, I haven't found one for the Pajero, the load on the trailer is properly distributed, the trailer has good, functioning electric brakes and you have a brake controller installed and you take the time to set up the controller to apply the brakes on the trailer slightly ahead of the tow vehicle, this keeps it running straight down the road when you apply the brakes, and strong enough to have a slight 'boat anchor' sensation when you apply your brakes. Remember two things when towing, if you get in trouble should the road get slippery do not pump the brake pedal, let the ABS work as it should and if the trailer starts to sway and applying the brakes isn't bringing it in to line quickly enough, apply the trailer brakes by themselves. The trailer will snap right backin behind your tow vehicle.
Thanks for the in depth info. And yes i think the pajero could pull more than its own weight. But they must read your post. I was pulling that jeep on a car dolly with no electric brakes on the dolly. The pj pulled it just fine it was the stopping that worried me. I had to plan well ahead for the stop. If there were trailer brakes it would be a no brainier.I Like your F350 and 14000lbs pulling it can do with ease . I like my pj and 2500lbs it can pull with ease. This combo works great and with no effort or harm to the ride.
To give you an idea of how strong the Pajero can be, we were hauling that 14,000lbs trailer up to Coldwater and it started to rain, very unusual for that area. The new dirt road turned to slop as we rounded a bend and the tires on the F350 and trailer snk in and spun in 4wdr, my son was stuck good. I was ahead of him in the Pajero and it looked like I would have to go and get a dozer or hoe to pull us through. My son said why not hook up the Pajero and try, I laughed, he insisted it was worth a try ....................and I had a chain handy sooooooooooo we hooked up, I put the Pajero into 4 low, locked centre diff and gave it a try........................it pulled the F350 w the (overloaded) trailer not fast and w a little tire spin from time to time, w 5 people in the cab and all their gear in the box along the road and up the hill (not to steep) about a kilometer before we got to where we were going...............it was pretty stunning.......shoulda taken a picture.
verry cool......... , thank you for your input on this, i may give it a try pulling the 23 fotter on a short trip to Ross lake and see how it pulls, i still need to get a trailer break unit set up, ill make sure thats done first
thanks again
Let us know how it is, I am also on a hunt for a trailer, and I am puzzled what size to buy.
I am happy I didn't get an f-350 , cool story, made me proud of my Pajero.
Im gona hook up to the trailer on friday and pull it back from the farm with the pajaro. Its about a 30km run, one small hill and a few long curves, hope all is good, should give me a idea if it can do a longer trip or not. the only thing is the hitch hight might be a little high as i have a lift on the pajero and the ford was lowerd 2 inch
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