JDM Wholesale Canada

[Green1]

If the best that can be said about JDM is that in a given case the stood behind a given vehicle to the tune of several thousand dollars in repairs, it's a sad endorsement.

What do you expect of dealers then? they offered a warranty, and I turned it down, then they STILL provided thousands of dollars in repairs... that is well above and beyond in my books, and something very few dealers would do. I can't think of anything more that any dealer could possibly do to impress me than what JDM did for me.

What people expect from a dealer is the vehicle they wanted, for the price they wanted... I got that, and much more. very few companies that I have dealt with in any industry have done a better job than JDM did.

In fact I have even heard other vehicle importers recommend JDM to people... when your competition is recommending you, you know you're doing something right!

if this is a "sad endorsement" I'd hate to think what your standards are!

[mcod]

Flukes can happen Green1. Especially when they're building a reputation with early customers like yourself. Their 3 year canadian business plan probably included buying crappy vehicles with a higher profit margin and neglecting necessary repairs. Those early customers unknowingly endorsed them as "above and beyond" etc., when it isn't a current reflection of their business. Now they are below and beyond with many of our communities Canadian dollars. Nobody should be blamed here but the Robinson's and they don't need you to stick up for them.

[Henrik]

I tried to Post in the JDM Wholesalers thread, but it's locked whitout a reason?
It seams that there is alot of pepole here who knows Mel and James. I really need to get in touch with them.
As I have orded a car which I been told it's on it's way for 2 months now. But when i spoke to the freight company they haven´t even recived it yet?!?

I don't know if everything is a big missunderstanding? As James now doesn´t have any email that works or phone?!

13000$ is to much money to just forget about!!!

So I hope this all is just a big mistake that James will solve asap!! I will let you all know!

[Green1]

Unfortunately there is no way to know what is going on with the current situation right now. James has stated that his lawyer is telling him not to talk about it until it is resolved, and I can certainly understand the difficult position he is in.

Open and honest communication is one of the things that most impressed me when dealing with JDM wholesale, so I would think that they will probably still be happy to update you on what's going on. Their Canadian site has been shut down it appears, however their New Zealand site is still up, so I would try the contact information at http://www.rfimports.co.nz/ to try to reach them.

As for the thread being locked, there was a disagreement in there, and it was locked to stop it from degrading any further.

I would ask that anyone posting to this thread refrain from getting back in to that argument, and instead focus on any relevant facts and information.

[mark]

By locking the previous thread, it was not my intention to stifle the sharing of new insights and ideas among members of this community. However, it seems that the thread was running into its third page & third week of life, and I’m not convinced that a reader would from reading very far beyond the first page or so.

JDM Wholesalers’ situation is a regrettable one for every party involved.

Lets keep this thread open, but restrict it to objective facts (& avoid the personal references).

- Mark

PS: I’ve edited this thread title slightly to reflect the name of the business involved (rather than any particular individual).

[Fanny Bay Delica]

Green1,

I'm glad you found an e-mail/phone number link to these guys, I for one will be very interested to see how they respond. I know when I bought my deli the company I purchased through VI Custom Auto had less than glowing comments by many member of the forum, but I found them ok (once Glen did all the required preventive maintenance). I'm actually quite surprised individuals are out laying this type of money without some better assurance of delivery .

With respect to the previous thread I think we are all fully capable of analyzing the content and making up our own minds (my two cents). Nuff said .

[Green1]

I'm actually quite surprised individuals are out laying this type of money without some better assurance of delivery

unfortunately in the import business you really don't have a choice, EVERY importer requests the money (or at the very least, a large portion of it) up front before they will even buy the vehicle in Japan.
I found some that wouldn't even talk to me without a $1,000.00 "deposit" let alone buy a vehicle.

If you are buying something already landed then you don't have to deal with that, but when choosing something at auction there is always a risk. (when I bought, buying locally wasn't even an option, at the time nobody was bringing in Delicas on spec, and most importers had never brought one in, or had any dealing with them at all before.) Now you can buy locally, but often to find "the perfect vehicle" you are still looking at the auctions, and you're back to having to pay up front.

I always tell people, never spend more than you can afford to loose, and do as much research as you can before putting down any money, most of all, talk to the importer and find one that you feel comfortable with.

I talked to over a dozen importers before settling on JDM, and of those, there were only 2 that I would feel comfortable dealing with.

[Duped]

I found the original JDM thread 4 days too late.

I too (thought I had) purchased a vehicle from them. I have been stung for $11,680 and have been put in a position where I was apparently the victim of criminal as well as fraudulent conduct. If I had seen what was posted on here I would have walked away, instead of plunking money down the day they boarded the plane and fled to NZ. I was left both feeling betrayed and broke.


As I look through the progression of the two threads I can see that there are a lot of people that have sought to defend and/or protect James. If I was not out so much money, I too could feel sorry for the Robinsons. But when a fella looks me in the eye, shakes my hand and then boards a plane with my money, there is not much charity left in my soul.

The fact that there had been retractions or deletions of peoples early replies may very well have lead to others not being forewarned. I must say that it is admirable to stick up for a friend and noble to try to protect people from mean spirited untrue statements. But, I suspect many that had sought to defend or protect had an inkling where it was going and protected more out of loyalty to one then the thought of the common good.

I thank you for taking the time to read this and leave you with an appropriate historical quote:

"All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Edmund Burke

[Duped]

Added the word "apparently" as I would hate to be slapped with a libel suit. The fact that I feel the need to edit my statement, further saddens me as I was the aggrieved party... but in todays litigious society sometimes the victim can be even further victimized.

[fishslapper]

Open and honest communication is one of the things that most impressed me when dealing with JDM wholesale, so I would think that they will probably still be happy to update you on what's going on. Their Canadian site has been shut down it appears, however their New Zealand site is still up, so I would try the contact information at http://www.rfimports.co.nz/ to try to reach them.

I have been trying to contact James, Mel, Nick, and Deb through their various emails and phone numbers since February 9, 2008. The numbers listed on the RF Imports site are out of service and, although the emails have gone through, I have yet to receive any replies. I highly doubt any of the Robinsons will be in touch any time soon, if ever. They left with our money and without a word, do you really think they'll even think of contacting any of us they left in this crap situation?

Anyone wanting to discuss their situation and compare notes and information please feel free to PM me. Perhaps this will keep controversy away from the forum.

All the best to everyone who's involved in this mess! Trying to keep positive here :)

[JMK]

No-one seems to have made mention of whether they have embarked on taking some pro active steps toward recouping their losses. It is probably the only recourse left.

Presumably there were assets left behind. Creditors may be able to at least recover a percentage of their losses based upon the total value of any assets of the debtor that were seized. You may also want to take advantage of reciprocal enforcement of foreign judgments in other jurisdictions in Canada and elsewhere. Apparently New Zealand has very progressive legislation regarding foreign judgements made against its Nationals.

I assume that someone that did not get their vehicle could file a lien or something equivalent. Here are a few things that one could do, I'm sure a professional could make some better suggestions:

-Contact the Deputy Regsitrar that was just appointed for the Vehicle Sales Authority, Ian Christman who looks after investigations. Find out if any assets are in receivership and if a the trustee or registrar has been appointed.

-Find out about your rights and options: http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/site/bsf ... 1222e.html

- Have a quick look at Collection Law in B.C.: http://www.hg.org/articles/article_865.html

- Spend $8.00 and do an insovlency name search: https://strategis.ic.gc.ca/sc_mrksv/ban ... ch/engdoc/

- Also search the Personal Property Regsitry: http://www.fin.gov.bc.ca/registries/pprpg/ppsearch.htm

If you are going to get any $$ back you will probably have to process a legal claim of some sort against property, be it either seized in BC, or still owned, or perhaps also recently seized, in a foreign location.

[delicat]

Excellent point of view.

After reading some of the posts by the people that have had disastrous dealings with JDM-Wholesale I actually had a hard time falling asleep. Felt very bad for them. What is done is done but how to make it better?

You could look into the Motor vehicles sales authority of BC. They even have a Customer Compensation Fund to help individuals who have suffered an eligible loss in the purchase of a new or used vehicle:
http://www.mdcbc.com/compensation-fund.htm

I'm not sure if it can help but worth to look into.

Let us know if we can be of any help!

[Taynton]

Wow scary, To think I imported a vehicle from a similar company, I figured if they had been in business for at least a few years and had a legit shop and website then it would be ok. Boy was i wrong, i feel real bad for those delica owners who got the shaft, if that was me i would be looking for seat sales to NZ to deal with the matter personally! Lucky for me this is not the case.

[mark]

I was contacted this morning by Nick Robinson at JDM Wholesale with the following e-mail message:

Hello Mark,

We have been informed, that there is various threads on delica.ca concerning JDM Wholesale Canada at this point we have advised by our lawyers not to reply to prevent jeopardizing any future legal re-course.

I would however ask that you consider http://www.delica.ca position on this matter and respectfully ask that the threads be removed, as comments are being made that a untrue and defamatory along with listing details of an unrelated business, explicit photos of directors and personal contact details which as you will be well aware are illegal and could prove very, very costly.

Regards

JDM Wholesale Canada

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JDM Wholesale's situation is, unfortunately, one that affects members of this forum, and I am reluctant to interfere with an open dialog on this subject.

I am not aware of any basis to support the allegations that Mr. Robinson makes in his letter. However, this website does not have a budget to procure a legal opinion on this, and I would kindly ask that all inquiries regarding JDM Wholesale be directed to Mr. Robinson himself (jdmwholesaleca@yahoo.com), or between members by PM.

In response to Mr. Robinson's letter, I have removed the two recent threads on the subject of JDM Wholesale from the main site. Please do not start any new threads on this subject, because I will have no choice but to remove them (and would ask that moderators do the same).

Thank you for your understanding.

Mark

[mark]

My February 21, 2008 reply to Mr. Nick Robinson:

Dear Mr. Robinson:

I have no knowledge whatsoever whether or not your allegations (explicit photos, etc) have any basis.

However, my goal has always been for Delica Canada to provide an open discussion that focusses on accurate information (and not misinformation).

In order to address the concerns voiced in your e-mail, I have removed the two threads off the main Delica Canada site, and have replaced them with an announcement explaining my position to members at:
http://www.delica.ca/forum/jdm-wholesal ... -2071.html

I trust this is satisfactory.

Yours truly,
Mark Szekely

PS. I anticipate that some members may contact me for JDM's contact details. I understand if you need to be guarded about public communications at this time, but is there a contact person who can handle inquiries (e.g., legal counsel)?