The Holy Grail.

WVO filtering, WVO conversion information, biodiesel fuel issues, etc.

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The Holy Grail.

Post by almac »

i had a dream; or was it a vision?
the dream was a small portable WVO filtration system.
it would run on 12volts, and be the size of a small suitcase...

am i dreaming?
maybe... maybe not... :?

it began with a pump i got from princess auto. actually i got all the parts from PA.
then began the quest for the rest of the system...

parts list:
1. Diesel Pump - 12V
2. Goldenrod 10micron filter 3/4"NPT fittings.
3. Various 3/4" NPT fittings
4. Hoses & Nozzle
5. Piece of Plywood 1/2" 12"x12" square
6. fasteners
7. metal hangers
8. trailer electrical adapter
9. male/female trailer couplers

tools.
1. screwdriver set
2. drill
3. jigsaw
4. cresent wrench
5. hole saw
6. soldering iron or crimp fittings
7. crimper
8. fish tape

1. Cut out the 12"x12" plywood base. you can use a hole saw to drill out a top handle. use a jigsaw to cut it out.
2. Attatch hanging hooks to the back of the board.
3. Dissasemble the pump from the housing, and bolt the housing to the backer board.
4. connect the Goldenrod filter to the pump. for me this was the hardest part... sourcing the fittings. the guys in the hydraulic section of PA were the best.
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5. reassemble the pump back into the housing.

then came the electrical. i didnt want to have to open my hood every time i wanted to use the pump so i decided to use a male/female trailer fittings...

6. find a suitable place for the female trailer recepticle and drill hole.
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7. Run wiring for trailer 5 to 6 wire adapter, signal lights, power, and ground.
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8. INstert Female socket.
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9. wire up the male plug to the pump. make sure you mount fuses close to the battery as possible.
10. Connect your hoses and nozzle.

and finally...
Hang your WVO filtration pump on your rear ladder, plug in and enjoy! :-D :-D
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big thanks to TardisDeli Jay for all his help. the guy is truely an electrical wizard! :-D


more pics and performance reviews to follow...
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Re: The Holy Grail.

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Interesting. Do you have already a plan how to get rid off the water in the WVO?
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Slick install but I'm wondering the same as Felix.

Without a heated filter and a centrifuge, how will you dewater the wvo ?

A few guys are running on the road wvo processing but they all use centrifuges to get rid of the water and gunk.
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Looks Great! :-D
Missed you Sunday Morn at the Bohemium.
I Still have your Oxygen Bottle...
Cheers!
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Don't know if this cool setup will be used to process all your WVO, but Racor Aquabloc media does remove water. It was recommended to me by Racor, namely a diesel marine filling station filter with water removing media. Used it for a final fuel polish ( I used heating for de-watering) and the life of that filter was directly related to how thoroughly of a de-water I did, and of course the entrenched water to begin with. If I was impatient and only heated till the water just reach 90c and stopped, the filter would slow down hugely after just two barrels. Otherwise it could last 6 months before the flow reduce a similar amount.

Just an idea for a mobile solution, oh and those water separating bowls don't seem to work well with WVO (unconfirmed, but makes sense to me).
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I moved this thread from General Discussion to WVO & Biodiesel. Just keeping it real.

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Re: The Holy Grail.

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i agree about water separation issues. its often overlooked that water bonds to VO molecules much better than to petro-diesel molecules. the filters are engineered for diesel, obviously.
it was my experience on my trip to Mexico (see link in my signature) that without proper settling; filters and the centrifuge could not properly clean and dewater WVO. Eventually my IP failed, likely lack of internal lubrication becuase of water present in the WVO. (for the record, my IP was in a weakened state when my Delica came to me fro Japan)

be that as it may, i have seen similar mobile setups to yours, which is nice work!
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Re: The Holy Grail.

Post by almac »

thanks for all the comments guys.
the goldenrod filter i have is a waterblock filter. i thought id give that a try.
it may not be a heated element, but my van has an internal heated racor built in. with the filter built into the van, i almost wonder if im wasting my time filtering it all down to 10 microns twice, however i would like to keep my fuel tank and lines as clean as possible.

i am also planning on testing the oil for water first. plantdrive has a water device "thingy" i'm thinking of picking up.
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Re: The Holy Grail.

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dennis_lambert wrote:Looks Great! :-D
Missed you Sunday Morn at the Bohemium.
I Still have your Oxygen Bottle...
Cheers!
sorry i missed you dennis... sh#t happens... :?
we need to get together sometime soon. :-D
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