Rancho shock - rear welding

[Firesong]

Im looking at putting on the Rancho 9000's on my delica
I don't want to go with the adapter since I don't have a lift.
Is there a place that the mount can be bought (and then welded)
or will it have to be fabricated up and welded on.

Is this something I could get at say Princess auto then weld it?

Firesong

[almac]

i did the 9000xl setup.
the 'spacer/bracket' they used was bolt in. no welding required.
i had NSOR do mine. call them, they will help you out.

[jessef]

I don't want to go with the adapter since I don't have a lift.

the 'spacer/bracket' they used was bolt in. no welding required.

Almac. You have a lift, so yours won't work.

Maybe Falco can chime in as he had his welded locally.

[FalcoColumbarius]

I got my 9000s installed at NSOR. Most shocks have a loop end attachment, the Delica has a pin end for the rear shocks. I had the pin end ground off and welded a new bracket onto the axle. Now my Delica takes a loop end shock in the rear . The new brackets cost me $80 extra to install and remove the other ones.

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Falco.

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[fexlboi]

Is there a place that the mount can be bought

Yes, there is: http://secure.chassisshop.com/partlist/5972/

If I go through the hassle/cost of welding a new mount, I would go with higher quality shocks like Bilstein or Monroe.

[FalcoColumbarius]

Personally I prefer the higher quality of Rancho, but that's just me... smiles. There was no hassle. I went out for a coffee and read the Globe & Mail, came back and it looked just the way I described it should look like, just how I wanted it.

Falco.

[fexlboi]

Personally I prefer the higher quality of Rancho, but that's just me... smiles.

Are you talking about your air leaking Ranchos?

[jessef]

Personally I prefer the higher quality of Rancho, but that's just me... smiles.

Are you talking about your air leaking Ranchos?

I had a good laugh

We have it pretty poor here in North America for choices re: vehicles, aftermarket, etc.. including suspension and shocks.

For the same price you pay for a selectable Rancho, you can get a high quality shock with reservoir / Bilstien that is valved so well, there is no need for turning the knob from loose to stiff. But that's in the other countries.

The Rancho's are good if you do two things.

1. keep it from rusting. The casing is weak/thin.
2. run through the low to highest valving adjustments often, otherwise you'll end up with one setting permanently eventhough the knob still turns.

These two traits are common for the Rancho's and are nicely documented and talked about often.

With that said, they always have a deal going on with their adjustable shocks. Always. Just like the procomp tires. 4 for the price of 3. So if you do want to buy them. Make sure you don't pay full price for each shock. Most online companies offer four shocks with the wireless in cab remote (US retailers) for less than three shocks here in Canada. Shop around.

[FalcoColumbarius]

Personally I prefer the higher quality of Rancho, but that's just me... smiles.

Are you talking about your air leaking Ranchos?

My Rancho shocks aren't leaking. I have a hose system that has a minor leak in it. My shocks work fine. When I shift settings my shocks behave as they should. Although I must say that there is rust on them. I first noticed it after the Winter of '09/'10 when they salted the hell out of the streets just in case the temperature dropped below 10c. Having said that I'm not worried.

Falco.

[jessef]

If the rust isn't bad, sand it down and coat the shock body with something good. That's what many Rancho user's do. Must be the paint they use or something.

[Tinytoy]

Will the other rear shocks listed in the WIKI work on a STOCK NON LIFTED Delica? With no mods required to install?
The amount of listed parts on this site is huge!
Maybe there should be one section for stock another for modified???
Thanks for any responses
TT

[FalcoColumbarius]

My Ranchos, when I first put them on, went on a stock suspension. After adding a leaf to my rear springs and consequently re-indexing my torsion bars, the Miss Lil' Bitchi stood about an inch an an half taller ~ a nice sized lift in my opinion ~ still using the same shocks. I found that by using eye to pin mounts my options were limited. By changing the adapters it keeps it simple and widens one's options for shocks.

We do have "Modifications" as well as "L300 Technical". I usually find them in General Discussion then move them to the appropriate forum..... ....my lot in life, I suppose.... ... would like to organize items like that more, just the time involved so I have to consider priorities, from time to time I get something up on site.

Falco.

[Firesong]

Will the shocks go on to a stock height L300 (ranchos)
with the adapter without wrecking the shocks?

FS

[jessef]

you can get different stroke lengths with the rancho's just like the procomp's, etc...

This is what you need for a stock Delica L300 :

Front - stroke length 13.5" inches
Rear - stroke length 19.5" inches

On the rear, this is from the top mount (center of the eye) to the bottom mount (base of the shock where the threaded ~ pin ~ section begins.

Technically, the 'best' place to weld the adaptor is on top of the existing bottom shock mount. This will give it more rigidity. If you go this route, your shock stroke length will have to be 1.75" inches shorter than stock (.25" inches for the existing base plate + 1.75" inches for the adapter). Stroke length = 17.75" inches I prefer this method. To build around the axle and buy a shock to suit that length.

If you go another route, which is to remove the existing base plate and weld a completely new shock perch, then you can raise or lower it to suit. If you are building around a specific shock length, this is the best way.

The 3rd option, which is the easiest, is to buy the pin to eye adaptor $40-50, drill out the existing pin hole on the bottom shock mount (stock it too small), insert adaptor, gun on the stover nut, and then measure (at full articulation) from the center of the eye (bottom) to the center of the eye (top). This will your stroke length. Then measure (at minimum articulation) the same. This will be your compression length. Take those two numbers and look for the right shock. Being eye to eye, you will have many options.
No welding, straight forward install. From my memory, going this route, you will need a 17.5" stroke length shock.

This is the adaptor you need :

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EXP-690001/

Procomp part # 690001 $25-40 depending on where you buy it. Comes in a pair with hardware.



Here's what I did on mine (no welding). I used 19.5" long rear shocks (eye to eye) but that was with a 2" lift. You'll need 17.5" long rear shocks (eye to eye).

http://www.delica.ca/forum/expedition-d ... tml#p23312

[Tinytoy]

My Ranchos, when I first put them on, went on a stock suspension. After adding a leaf to my rear springs and consequently re-indexing my torsion bars, the Miss Lil' Bitchi stood about an inch an an half taller ~ a nice sized lift in my opinion ~ still using the same shocks. I found that by using eye to pin mounts my options were limited. By changing the adapters it keeps it simple and widens one's options for shocks.

We do have "Modifications" as well as "L300 Technical". I usually find them in General Discussion then move them to the appropriate forum..... ....my lot in life, I suppose.... ... would like to organize items like that more, just the time involved so I have to consider priorities, from time to time I get something up on site.

Falco.

I appreciate all the hard work that you do on this site Falco! I meant for a separation in the WIKI
Thank you jfarsang for clearing this up for me!
May the trails you ride keep your heart rate healthy!
TT