How much do you guys smoke and what grade of diesel ? MPG?

[Pajerist]

Did anybody pass AIRCARE with removed ECR valve?

Thanks,

Yup. w/ flying colours. 95 L400 4M40

Thanks for reply. It is an unbiased proof that EGR valve is useless...

[wine]

I have done a tremendous amount of research on the subject. There is no question that not every scientist is going to agree, they never have, unfortunately when you research the money behind the naysayers you find the culprits I spoke of earlier,Big oil, Big Chemical, Big Seed, Big Pharmaseutical, the same rackateers that stand to gain the most from squeezing every last barrel of fossil fuel out of the ground at any cost. Not even the paid off scientists deny the tremendous loss of ice and the effect it has
I am challenging the people of the world to return the planet to a green space breathing in CO2 expelling life giving Oxygen and cleaning the air in the process by planting 1,000 billion trees or 150 trees per person in the next year. This will mitigate the desertification of our planet, and if we keep it up, actually start the reverse trend. Lets start taking responcibility for our actions and quit sloughing it off as every one elses problem. We all breath the same air, drink the same water, and rely on the soil to grow our food.

For those of you that are old enough............big tobacco hired an influence peddling company back in the 60's to plant mis-information about the danger of smoking......................see the correlation.

[glenn]

It's incredible that climate change deniers are still out there. For any scientific theory to be credible - it has to be PEER REVIEWED. If you review the scientific literature - there is no "other side" These deniers only exist in alternative media for a good reason - and it's not because of some kind of crazy conspiracy involving almost every scientist and academic institution in the world.

[92Nicopolis]

OK... So i might not be the smart guy in the room, but if it burns cleaner,runs cooler,starts better,gets more mpg,
wouldnt that show that its better for the climate to blank it or block it
Im not trying to be a @ss, its just a question. I ask because i am thinking of blanking mine.
i blow a little black and i find its getting a little worse as the outside temp gets higher.
If Wine is all that upset about ppl doing this than i ask this question.
Why do you drive what you drive? Again not to be a @SS, but shouldnt you be driving a prius if it bugs you to the point of doing "a tremendous amount of research on the subject".

Just a thought

[wine]

You got me........we are very environmental conscience and it bugs the heck out of me that I don't drive vehicles that burn less fuel, however as a farmer I need to get my equipment around to our vineyards and thats only going to happen w a rig like the F350 and big trailer. My equipment is the most efficient I can find at doing the job and once I get enough guys to join the bio-diesel co-op, we'll be back to running higher portions of bio made from waste vegy oil.
We have looked at every aspect of our farm and personnal life to reduce our use of non-renewable resources. We use less than half the fuel today as 6 years ago on the farms, our water use for irrigation is down 80%, we use no chemicals which are derived from oil and natural gas, we are certified organic in all of our operations, We have cut our driving down by over 50% by combining trips, we don't go till there is at least 3 stops to make, all of our lighting save for two bulbs are cfl, we take our wine bottles back and hope to soon have a bottle washing machine so we can re-use them. We are planning to install photovoltaic panels on the roof of the winery and perhaps a windmill when the BC govn't follows the lead of Germany, Denmark, Spain and Ontario and introduces the 'FIT' program so all those that can, will be able to produce power and sell it back into the grid at a profit. Then we can close our coal fired power stations and we won't need the new very expensive power dam.
We are soon going to challenge all the people on the earth to plant 150 trees from seed or little saplings each in 90 days, that would be 1,000 billion trees folks, a really good start at sequestering CO2, cleaning our air, slowing the melting of the glaciers, and refilling our acquifers around the world. ok ok I get carried away but it is all possible TODAY if we just set our minds to it and DO IT. It wasn't so many years ago we had a hole in the ozone from the use of flourocarbons, we banned them around the world and lo and behold the hole closed up.

[92Nicopolis]

well its good to see you got a plan, and i will plant some trees this spring. I need to landscape my yard, but it wont be 90 more like 20-24 but back to the EGR, dont you think less fuel use and a lot less smoke/particulates in the air would be a good thing? or is there more to it? In my eyes it makes scence

[tonydca]

Did anybody pass AIRCARE with removed ECR valve?

Thanks,

Yup. w/ flying colours. 95 L400 4M40

Thanks for reply. It is an unbiased proof that EGR valve is useless...

I don't think it's so much useless as just there for a specific purpose: to supposedly reduce NOx emissions by reducing the burn temp when exhaust gas is bled into the intake manifold.

I just found my van ran more smoother and more efficiently when it was removed. Apparently AirCare either isn't testing for NOx emissions, or else mine were still within reason. Could I have rebuilt it instead of removing it? Perhaps. But quite frankly, I looked at the amount of soot and crap inside my intake manifold courtesy of the EGR and I was not impressed.

To be fair, I have got the rest of the engine running pretty clean as far as injectors, filters, etc. go. So while I may not be the least polluting vehicle out there, I'm better than many.

At least that's what AirCare said.

[wine]

I think Butch could probably offer some insight. I would think the better your engine is running, the cleaner the exhaust, the less buildup of soot in the intake manifold, and less in the EGR which keeps it operating better and round we go. I need to take my own EGR out and clean it to start the positive loop.
Has anyone done this themselves?

[FalcoColumbarius]

Here's a link or two for you:

• Why should one put in an EGR blanking plate?
  How to fit an EGR blanking plate (Photo guide)

Falco.

[pajerry]

If anyone is still making and selling blanking plates please PM me!

[Mr. Pistachio]

Did anybody pass AIRCARE with removed ECR valve?

Thanks,

I've passed Aircare in Ontario with Blanking plates!

[Pajerist]

Did anybody pass AIRCARE with removed ECR valve?

Thanks,

I've passed Aircare in Ontario with Blanking plates!

Cool!
I passed today too!

30 minutes of waiting (instead of 15 minutes "estimated"), no "hi/bye/please/thanks" for my $45 LOL...
My readings is THREE TIMES LESS than MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE (with removed EGR valve)

[CVI]

Diesel tests for air care only involves the opacity level....which is basically how much soot or unburned fuel is coming out of your exhaust... What the egr valve does or means is E -exhaust G - gas R - recirculation. EGR valve is actuated by vacuum controlled by a solenoid switch only on engine deceleration. It allows some amount of exhaust gas back to the intake system to lower combustion temperatures thereby lowering emissions. Lots of times, the solenoid valve conks out or the valve itself is partially open due to soot build up. Assuming any of these conditions exists, then, loss of power (boost conditions does not exist because the valve is open) or the defective solenoid opens the EGR on acceleration ...hence, lots of unburned fuel (black smoke) and huge loss of power.

I hope this helps a bit...

By the way....Wine... I have planted about 10,000 mahogany trees 75kms south of Manila....

[mararmeisto]

As CVI has commented, usually the EGR valve gets coked up (yes that's the term for excessive soot build up, comes from the days of coal) and remains stuck open. This provides excessive exhaust gases into the intake all the time, which increase engine temps, which isn't necessarily good for a diesel. Good when the engine is cold and the extra heat warms the combustion chamber in order to increase combustibility which lowers emissions, but in the long run is not good for the engine.

And you're correct: Air Care is not looking for a decrease in NOx emissions because we 'dealt' with that demon by removing sulfur from our fuels (think about how nobody talks about acid rain any more). What the greenies fail to acknowledge is that ANY TIME something, made of carbon, is combusted (i.e. combined with oxygen), it will produce either CO or CO2. And so, Air Care is focusing on how much of that is coming out the tailpipe. I'm all for keeping emissions down, but the reality is that there is only so low the floor can go. Considering we're burning dead dinosaurs and compressed plants, well, that's all I got to say 'bout that.

What I find more interesting about this thread is how "gtr" has not come back to comment on all the responses. Makes me wonder if we've all been led down the garden path, as it were.

[wine]

As one of those greenies I question your tying the reduction of Sulphur S in the fuel with a reduction in NOx nitrogen and oxygen in various forms, NO, No2, etc Perfect eg. biodiesel with no sulphur but burns w elevated levels of NOx vs dino-diesel.
The challenge w dino fuels are that the earth sequestered that C millions of years ago and now we're digging it up and putting it back in the atmosphere. Hence the switch to renewables in a closed loop, grow plants, sequestering the carbon, which we convert to a fuel, burn in our vehicles, which feed the plants...............closed loop as long as we grow as many or more plants than we burn! The other challenge is when we take acreage out of the food stream to put it into the fuel stream.
So what we need to do is keep our vehicles in tune, put a raw egg between your foot and the go pedal, drive a little less, plan to do at least 3 things before hopping in the truck, and convert to using as much renewable energy as possible; photovoltaic, wind, and micro-hydro which the urban greenies can use to power their vehicles to keep the balance of food to fuel growing. Remember, electric planes aren't going to work any time soon; hard to 'pull over' should the batteries start to die. If we stop digging dirty oil out of the ground we can save huge amounts of light crude and Natural gas; takes the equivalent of 4 barrels of N.G. and a half barrel of light crude to make 1 barrel of heavy crude.........what are we thinking?
Folks if we don't how are we going to feed everyone by 2020? So go out and find the 150 seeds from indiginous trees, plant them in appropriate places, take you an hour, take some pictures, do your part.
CVI, good on you on planting all of those mahogany trees.